posted on December 26, 2005 11:29:23 PM new
I live in PA close to the MD/PA state line and Camp David in MD. Everytime the President stay's at Camp David there are security fighter jet's that circle during his stay for security. They pass over my house about every 12 minutes during his stay. Needless to say they are rather loud as they fly much much lower altitude's then commercial aircraft and if you watch them during the day they like to "hot dog it" if you catch my drift doing roll's and so on. I can live with the fighter jet's one or two day's every 2-3 weeks when he's staying at Camp David but he has been there all weekend, day 4 now and counting and the damn jet's are still cicrcling overhead and it's getting a little hard to sleep around here. Kind of makes me wish I had a stinger missle (just kidding) but please Mr. President GO HOME !!!!!!!! I would like to get some sleep before the new year arrives.
[ edited by mikes4x4andtruckrepair on Dec 26, 2005 11:30 PM ]
posted on December 27, 2005 12:08:17 AM new
So sorry, Mike, but bush advocates torture and your pleas would fall on deaf ears even if he ever listened to your opinion....he doesn't, you're an average American and matter very little to him.
Now, if you care to doante a couple million to the RNC I'm sure the planes will be gone the next day
posted on December 27, 2005 05:56:47 AM new
Sorry no sympathy here, his protection is far more important than you supposedly losing any sleep. After all this is not the first President to use Camp David and air patrols have been up before. But guess when wet willie was there you just overlooked that.
Ron
"Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you are not."
posted on December 27, 2005 06:23:45 AM new
I can sympathize with you! I once lived near Cleveland Hopkins Int'l Airport. They changed the flight path and the planes were flying right over my apartment day and night. I swear it seemed like every 5-10 minutes. Since I lived about 2 miles from the airport, they were flying low! Everything in my apartment would rattle. I moved not too long after this started. The loss of sleep is enough to drive you mad. They have since changed the flight paths again.
At least you don't have this 365 days a year!
Cheryl
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
posted on December 27, 2005 06:30:02 AM new " I can live with the fighter jet's one or two day's every 2-3 weeks when he's staying at Camp David but he has been there all weekend, day 4 now and counting and the damn jet's are still cicrcling overhead and it's getting a little hard to sleep around here.
It's just a part of the wingnut's program to permit torture closer to home in order to destigmatize it...in this case, sleep deprivation.
posted on December 27, 2005 07:05:24 AM new
Hi Mike - Sorry that your sleep is being interrupted while the President enjoys his Christmas holiday.....but after hearing how the terrorists were planning to kill him in the WH, I'm sure they've put even more emphasis on protecting him now, than they did before.
This too shall pass
....just keep thinking....ask not what your country can do for you [let you sleep] but ask what you can do for your country [learn about sleep deprevation ].
Hope your holidays were enjoyable...and Happy New Year to you and yours too.
posted on December 27, 2005 07:27:10 AM new
Mike, how long have you lived at your present home? Is this the first president who's had this security?
I'm asking because I'm sure you've really had it, if they did it for all Presidents?
But people here who live in the 'take off or landing' around Seatac airport, the Port installs new 'sound proof' windows to replace all your old ones, and they are supposed to reduce most all the plane noise. Been to some homes that have them, and they do. Wondering if they do that in your area?
posted on December 27, 2005 09:41:07 AM new
To answer a few questions.
Yes, I have lived here a long time. My hole life in fact. Inherited the family farm after my parents passed away.
No, this was not standard procedure until shortly after 9-11. Had never heard the planes before that and my understanding is that the flight path of the security planes was much smaller back then.
Linda K. "This too shall pass
....just keep thinking....ask not what your country can do for you [let you sleep] but ask what you can do for your country [learn about sleep deprevation ]."
I thought I gave the US enough sleep deprevation during the 8 years I served in the US Army .
Another point is that this president seems to spend more time at Camp David or his home ranch more than any other president before. Vacations seem to be the norm for him.
There is one upside to all this though. If you like to watch fighter planes in action I have a front row seat. About once a month or so some poor local piolet wanders into the "no fly zone" and is escorted off by the fighter plane to a local airport in Gettysburg, PA. Even saw them chase a helicopter off once. Rather interesting to watch a fully loaded fighter jet of that size flying circles around a little chopper. I'm sure that guy needed some new seat covers
posted on December 27, 2005 10:35:17 AM new
Yes, this president spent 46% of his first 6 months in office on vacation....relaxing and ignoring warnings of an attack on America.
mingotree/crowfarm - posted on December 20, 2005 "Ya but linda, I'M the nasty atheist, scummy LIBERAL and YOU are the enlightened "christian"?? How quickly you lower yourself to my level"
posted on December 27, 2005 12:13:52 PM new"It's just a part of the wingnut's program to permit torture closer to home in order to destigmatize it...in this case, sleep deprivation."
posted on December 27, 2005 02:03:50 PM new
Mike - I know you did....[already paid your personal dues]....
...and I did almost respond to NTS about betting it is going on even more so than it did under clinton as we are at war...have been attacked...and have found out the terrorists were planning on murdering our President. No surprise there'd be more security now.
Sorry you have to loose sleep over it though.
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Vacations just like all our Congress gets to enjoy. Most of his are working 'vacations' though. Presidents are never completely free from their responsibilities.....their job.
edited to add:
A suggestion???? Maybe ear plugs would work to help you sleep.....they do help keep out the loudness when used on the firing range.
posted on December 30, 2005 03:38:28 PM newAnother point is that this president seems to spend more time at Camp David or his home ranch more than any other president before. Vacations seem to be the norm for him.
It must be nice to have a job with 4 months of vacation during the year.
It is no wonder why we were attacked in the first place.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- The duty of a patriot in this time and place is to ask questions, to demand answers, to understand where our nation is headed and why. If the answers you get do not suit you, or if they frighten you, or if they anger you, it is your duty as a patriot to dissent. Freedom does not begin with blind acceptance and with a flag. Freedom begins when you say 'No.'
but please Mr. President GO HOME !!!!!!!! I would like to get some sleep before the new year arrives.
