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 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 17, 2003 05:12:09 PM
Just picked up this up for work and home, but think the documentation stinks... anyone recommend a good guide book?


 
 clivebarkerfan
 
posted on April 17, 2003 07:57:31 PM
I think there's a dummies guide for it. Those are usually awesome

 
 neonmania
 
posted on April 17, 2003 08:19:39 PM
There should be a tutorial on the CD. Basically, it's good for figuring out the basics but the only good way to figure out photoshop is to take a couple days and play around with it. I have been using it since version 3 and I've never been able to figure out any of the books - I'm not much of a manual person though.

You may want to try the Photoshop WOW books. A friend got me one once and I did find a few new features thanks to it plus the accompanying disk had some great trials on filters.





 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 17, 2003 09:24:16 PM
Thanks, will look into it... had forgot about cd will look at that too

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 CBlev65252
 
posted on April 18, 2003 04:06:34 AM
I have the program, but have yet to use it. I've been using Microsoft PhotoDraw and have found it to be quite good and very user friendly. I'd be interested in knowing how many others use Photoshop and their opinions of the program. I might give it a shot someday.

Cheryl
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 18, 2003 06:24:25 AM
Cheryl, I have no experience with anyother highend graphics programs, but from what I have been able to do with photoshop so far (very basic, very basic touch up) it is a nice program...

My brother-in-law now tells me I should of gotten Photoshop Elements... cheaper and does some good work.


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 eauctionmgnt
 
posted on April 18, 2003 06:25:03 AM
Twelvepole,

The "dummies" book will certainly help you from a beginner-intermediate level. The WOW book will probably get into some more advanced techniques... and will be a little more technical in its presentation style. The adobe web-site also has some great tutorials on-line.

One thing worth pointing out about Photoshop 7... Adobe decided to take full advantage of the JPEG format and by default now includes the EXIF preview data (information recorded about how the image was created, what camera was used, etc...) This is perfectly acceptable by JPEG standards... HOWEVER... Microsoft (in its infinate wisdom) decided to create software that can not handle the EXIF preview data. In other words... certain combinations of Microsoft Operating systems and Internet Explorer browsers will NOT display the images. For example... my secondary machine is running Windows 2000 pro w/ IE 6, and when it views a JPEG with EXIF data, it just keeps trying and trying to load the image... it never succeeds, but it never stops trying. Then, when you try to view other images, it can't view those either. The only way to resolve it is to restart the system. So... if you were to save JPEG's normally.... using Photoshop 7... you'd definately make some of your auction customers upset when they went to look at your pictures.

Fortunately... there is a work-around. If you choose the Save-for-web option, instead of Save or Save-As.... then the EXIF data is not included. Not only does this allow the JPEGS to open normally, but it will also shrink the file size about 15% (because you know have less information in the file!) So... for all you Photoshop 7 (and Photoshop Elements v.2.0) users... just beware of this problem, use Save-for-web, and you'll be fine! Hope that helps to prevent some of the Headache's that I ran into several months ago!

(p.s. If you want to see if your file has EXIF data... open the file in Photoshop, and go to File->File Info. Then, under the Section drop down menu, choose EXIF. If it is blank, you're fine. If it has all sorts of information... then the EXIF data exists... and you should use the Save-for-web feature to remove it)

 
 eauctionmgnt
 
posted on April 18, 2003 06:26:48 AM
Oh... and yes.. your brother-in-law is absolutely correct. Photoshop Elements v.2.0 would have done everything you needed for about a 1/6 the price. It's a powerful program... but still has the same problem with EXIF data!
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 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 18, 2003 06:27:28 AM
THANKS!


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 neonmania
 
posted on April 18, 2003 07:17:34 AM
Cheryl, like I mntioned before, I've been using Photoshop since back when version 3 was the new one and I LOVE IT!. I do high-end graphics freelance on the side and have used it to create everything from auction images to print ads to full color full size posters and even removing dreaded aunt Mary from wedding pics (during Christmas season I do some temp for a local lab where I play digital dermitologist cleaning up senior photos before the yearbooks go to print. I have not found anything imagewise that I wanted to do but was unable to and have even used photoshop to help restore images taken from negatives that were torn in half.and created family photos that included generations that never met. Photoshop is my video game, I still get bored and start exploring the possibilities. It is one program I will never give up.

 
 
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