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 asilver
 
posted on October 17, 2000 05:09:04 AM
I sent money cash to a seller, and he told me he recieved the letter but no money inside. It is easyly deductible for their emails, that HE RECIEVED THE MONEY.
What can I do?

 
 Meya
 
posted on October 17, 2000 05:10:21 AM
Promise yourself that you will never send cash again.
 
 HartCottageQuilts
 
posted on October 17, 2000 05:11:46 AM
Not much, aside from leaving a neg, which the seller will probably respond to with "Retaliatory. Sent empty envelope. Scam."

My sympathies - but this is a goooooood reason to pay by ANY other method than cash.



 
 mballai
 
posted on October 17, 2000 06:14:51 AM
I agree with HCQ, but I do accept cash and have never had any problems. A lot of the problem is the sellers you may deal with. When in doubt don't.

 
 Meya
 
posted on October 17, 2000 06:19:31 AM
As a seller and buyer, I "accept" cash for payment, but certainly don't recommend it. I haven't had any buyers claim to have sent cash, and received an empty envelope, but I wonder how I would handle it if I did. Where is the burden of proof? Do I have to prove the envelope was empty or does the seller have to prove they actually sent it?

Checks and MO can be traced if cashed. Cash leaves no paper trail at all. It becomes one person's word against anothers, no win for either side.
 
 mzalez
 
posted on October 17, 2000 06:20:25 AM
asilver, just curious, but how could you tell from his emails that he had received your money?

My advice--don't ever send cash unless it's a dime or so. I've received envelopes from buyers that have been sliced or ripped open--obviously by postal workers. Unfortunately we can't trust the people that handle our mail. I noticed a pattern, too--it usually happens when the mail goes through Atlanta.

Sorry this happened to you, but don't trust anyone with your cash. Cash makes people do stupid things.

 
 HartCottageQuilts
 
posted on October 17, 2000 07:43:13 AM
I do accept cash and have never had any problems

Not surprising, since the only "problem" a seller could run into is a bidder claiming he HAD sent cash; and it's up to the bidder to prove it. The bidder may neg the seller, ut the seller's not out of pocket a nickel on the deal.

OTOH, a bidder who sends is asking for trouble, for exactly the same reason: He has to PROVE he sent the $ - which he could easily do if he had used CC, check or MO - and unless he can (and with cash he can't), he's out of pocket AND may even get a neg (unjustified or not) for nonpayment.

 
 macandjan
 
posted on October 17, 2000 08:57:39 AM
I BEG my customers not to send cash usually. The only sale I feel might have reason to send cash is for remailing sdervice. Even then I say upfront - not responsible for loss in the mail. Some countries such as India I have had to send everything in a steel box so it can't be slit open and stolen.
How much cash would it take to make even a dishonest seller keep it knowing they would be absorbing a neg to take it?

 
 corrdogg
 
posted on October 17, 2000 09:06:58 AM
I understand the subject being discussed, but what is “a totter”?

Are you trying to communicate an ID?

The only “totter” I am aware of is if something is unsteady or a teeter-totter.

Do tell...


 
 njrazd
 
posted on October 17, 2000 09:09:57 AM
If you wanted to send cash, then it should have been sent Registered mail. That way it gets signed for each step of the way to the recipient.

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That's Flunky Gerbiltush to you!
 
 asilver
 
posted on October 17, 2000 09:16:12 AM
Sorry what I wanted to say is A ROTTER.
Thank you for your correction.

 
 uaru
 
posted on October 17, 2000 09:31:28 AM
"If you wanted to send cash, then it should have been sent Registered mail. That way it gets signed for each step of the way to the recipient."

Sending registered mail guarantees the letter gets there, it offers no proof you have cash inside the letter. Don't pay for an auction with cash unless you are going to pick the item up from the seller personally.

 
 amalgamated2000
 
posted on October 17, 2000 09:46:32 AM
Sorry what I wanted to say is A ROTTER.

Uhm... oh, nevermind.

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All rights reserved. All wrongs reversed.
 
 amalgamated2000
 
posted on October 17, 2000 09:52:05 AM
This thread's so popular, there's already a sequel. From the thread "A TOTTER 2"

Someone ask me how I know for his emails that he recieved the money. The answer is that he is a totter, and also stupid.

Ahh... now it all makes sense...
 
 corrdogg
 
posted on October 17, 2000 09:55:08 AM
I still don't understand how you misspell "rotter" as "totter" in three places in two different threads, but...

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OK. I like sending and receiving cash, but it should really be done properly so that the parties on both ends have some confidence that cash was actually sent.

I would recommend that the cash is sent flat in a 3-5/8 x 6-1/2 (regular-sized) envelope that is then taped inside a #10 (business-sized) envelope. This will inhibit the envelope from being slit open and the contents slipped out. If someone is intent on removing the contents they will have to tear the inner envelope out.

I believe that some people try to scam you by purporting to send cash. It is easy to do: send a note stating “I have enclosed $xx.xx cash”, slit the end of the envelope, and drop it in the mail. The recipient gets it and figures that the cash has been stolen, and the pissing contest begins.

If you do deal in cash you have to understand the risk involved.


 
 asilver
 
posted on October 17, 2000 10:21:43 AM
Thank you corrdogg. My mother language is Spanish. In Spanish language : Un estúpido caradura.

 
 mzalez
 
posted on October 17, 2000 01:29:21 PM
asilver, leyendo sus emails, ¿cómo sabe que su cliente le envió pisto?

Y en inglés la palabra por 'estúpido caradura' es 'knucklehead' (cabeza del nudillo).


 
 kudzurose
 
posted on October 17, 2000 01:48:16 PM
I've been paid quite a few times with cash, with no problem. (And EVERY ONE of those payments came through Atlanta.)

I've also paid with cash when the amount was under ten dollars, but I use a 5x7 manilla envelope, fold the money in a heavy sheet of paper, and tape the envelope well.

The double-envelope idea is a good one, too.

But in any case, the risk is TOTALLY on the sender - if the seller said it didn't get there, I'd have no choice but to pay again.



 
 joice
 
posted on October 17, 2000 02:36:23 PM
mzalez,

It is often difficult to moderate nuances of the English language without having folks post in other languages.

I had to go to a translator service to find out this is what you posted:

asilver, reading his emails, how knows that his client sent chicken broth to him? And in English the word by ' stupid it will caradurá is ' knucklehead' (head of the knuckle).

Please post in English otherwise I won't know if you are talking about chicken broth or knuckles!

Thanks,




Joice
Moderator.


[ edited by joice on Oct 17, 2000 02:38 PM ]
 
 Meya
 
posted on October 17, 2000 02:38:02 PM
A client sent someone Chicken Broth? Now that's a first.
 
 corrdogg
 
posted on October 17, 2000 02:51:01 PM
For to understand el espanoll, el tacadiscos es de compuesto. Y pongo la mesa, albierta la puerta, entonces, nosotromos, dame un lata cerveza!!! Please exkuse mi speling, mi native lankuage is cabeza del nudillo... gracias!

Pollo con aroze forever!!!



 
 amalgamated2000
 
posted on October 17, 2000 02:55:01 PM
Altavista says:

For to understand espanoll, the tacadiscos is of compound. And I put the table, albierta the door, then, nosotromos, dame a broad beer! Please exkuse my speling, my native lankuage is head of the knuckle... thanks! Chicken with aroze to forever!


 
 joice
 
posted on October 17, 2000 02:58:58 PM
A chicken without a knuckle will aroze? Sounds like a formal warning to me

Now knock it off!

Please.


Joice
Moderator.

 
 corrdogg
 
posted on October 17, 2000 03:15:13 PM
Joice!

Did you just issue me a formal???

I'm shokked! (pleese for to exkuse. Mi native languauge is Esparanza... Can I send you cash?)

 
 joice
 
posted on October 17, 2000 03:17:20 PM

Joice
Moderator.

 
 mzalez
 
posted on October 17, 2000 03:18:11 PM
OH MY GOSH, JOICE!!!! HAAAHHAAAAHHHAAAA!!!! I can't believe that is what the translator came up with! That is sooooo funny!

I said, "Just by reading his emails, how could you tell the customer had sent cash?

In English the word for 'estúpido caradura' is 'knucklehead'"

I guess 'pisto' must mean 'chicken broth' in somewhere (I've never used it as such), but it can also mean 'highway' or 'cash money'--as in 'dough'. Hee hee hee! Too funny!

 
 Borillar
 
posted on October 17, 2000 03:53:56 PM
Maybe you meant 'pesto', which is Italian for a sauce consisting of usually fresh basil, garlic, pine nuts, olive oil, and grated cheese?



 
 mzalez
 
posted on October 17, 2000 04:15:18 PM
borillar, now you are making me hungry!

 
 CAgrrl
 
posted on October 17, 2000 04:47:34 PM
ROTFLMAO!!!!!

Thanks for the Spanish lesson you guys! I'm trying to learn the language but I know now that the translation software is dangerous!

 
 
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