outoftheblue
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posted on March 25, 2002 10:44:34 AM
mballai
>>”I'd rather risk irritating some readers with reality, than to say to each his own and pat everyone on the head.”<<
Sorry to say that you do not qualify to judge me or anyone else outside of your limited perspective. Why don’t you try doing 5-10 times your current volume while working your day job? Then come back in six months and I will listen. Try carrying 20 - 40 packages, with you on your way to work and lugging them into the post office in several trips.
Try working a 8:00 to 4:30 job when your post office (witch is about 3-4 miles away from work, in heavy traffic) is open 9:00 to 5:00. Oh, and you could take your packages on your half hour lunch break, while you drive through heavy traffic, then wait in line a the PO and end up a half hour late for work. You might try asking some very rushed grumpy PO customers to help you carry your packages in to the PO, maybe that would save you a few minutes.
I may be laying it on a bit thick, but it pales in comparison to the sanctimonious drivel you have been spewing here.
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mballai
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posted on March 25, 2002 11:08:39 AM
Ever hear of a hand truck?
In my old full-time business job, I routinely carried around 125 pounds of equipment.
In college I worked near full-time hours, went to class, and worked part time assignments that frequently had me go all night before I went back to work after dropping off my completed assignments.
BTW I did that without the luxury of a car.
You drag 125 pounds of equipment three miles each way and you tell me to cut the drivel.
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kiara
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posted on March 25, 2002 11:12:31 AM
Roadsmith said it best: Your reality isn't my reality.
I have purchased from sellers that state up front in their auction that they only ship once a week. The experience has always been a good one. Other sellers have become ill or had family problems or car problems and were unable to ship when they planned but these things happen.
There is a lot more to consider about a single transaction than how fast we can move it out the door.
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outoftheblue
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posted on March 25, 2002 11:18:53 AM
mballai
You totally missed my point. I'm talking about people with time constraints.
kiara spoke well. Your situation is not mine, nor does it necessarily apply to anyone else on eBay for that matter. You cannot realistically judge people by your situation or your way of doing things.
[ edited by outoftheblue on Mar 25, 2002 11:27 AM ]
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mballai
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posted on March 25, 2002 11:54:50 AM
Why do people think advice is judgement? If it doesn't apply to you, or you are under the illusion that it doesn't apply, that's fine with me. Your competition appreciates your decision not to apply real world business standards in your operation. And those standards do not come from me.
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dellastreet
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posted on March 25, 2002 08:40:58 PM
I don't ship every day and I don't intend to start. And I do just as well or better than my competition. There is no one and only answer to this question. Just because something works for you doesn't mean it's right for everyone.
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outoftheblue
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posted on March 25, 2002 09:04:28 PM
dellastreet
And I bet you have many satisfied (repeat) customers, because personal service is more than just rushing the package to the post office.
[ edited by outoftheblue on Mar 25, 2002 09:07 PM ]
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outoftheblue
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posted on March 25, 2002 09:23:00 PM
>>"Your competition appreciates your decision not to apply real world business standards in your operation."<<
You know very little of my standards mballai. So far I average of 1 negative out of every 1000 feedback comments. My standards couldn't be that bad.
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twinsoft
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posted on March 26, 2002 12:08:18 AM
Damn, I hate it when there's a good row and then everybody edits out their comments.
Business is not nursery school; it's boot camp.
For you it's boot camp. For me it's a hobby. I guess that makes me a rank amateur. Whatever. BTW I did boot camp, and I personally wouldn't want to make a career out of it.
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classicrock000
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posted on March 26, 2002 05:38:47 AM
yea twinsoft ya i hate when they eited their comments too-like watching a movie on a commerical channel and they edited out the swear words- gotta love the hate and discontent in here-reminds of that buffalo springfield song--(everyones right,and nobodys wrong)well im-sitting back here eating my popcorn-better then watching Jerry Springer-<snicker>
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mballai
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posted on March 26, 2002 05:44:39 AM
"real world" aren't your standards or mine. They encompass all businesses selling the same merchandise as you or I do. That's our competition.
Try reading what I wrote rather than answering what you imagine I wrote. And don't write something and then say it isn't what you meant.
Maybe those who spend a lot of time on AW could be shipping next day instead of trying to say why they can't. They sure aren't spending it on their business.
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outoftheblue
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posted on March 26, 2002 08:45:09 AM
And still they gazed, and still the wonder grew, That one small head could carry all he knew.
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kiara
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posted on March 26, 2002 08:52:32 AM
Lol 
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ohmslucy
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posted on March 26, 2002 08:59:25 AM
Good morning everybody,
This is just a thinly-disguised ruse so I can read stuff before it gets edited!
You guys crack me up! Hahahahahaha!
Lucy the same or next day shipper who hasn't had a day job in years! Tried it once - - didn't care for it.
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kiara
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posted on March 26, 2002 09:14:19 AM
For classicrock000.
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twinsoft
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posted on March 26, 2002 09:34:51 AM
I spent all last weekend working on my auction templates. In my opinion, anyone who doesn't spend all weekend working on their auction templates is an amateur.
eBay isn't nursery school. It's a square dance. Anyone who doesn't understand this will fail.
Now listen to ME...
alamand left and do-si-do....
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mballai
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posted on March 26, 2002 09:51:15 AM
SORRY!!!!
I was wrong....
This board doesn't even qualify as nursery school. Can't read, can't listen and are unteachable. Mostly just a bunch of whiney wet diapers that need to be changed but you refuse to even when you stink. Have fun babies...
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kiara
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posted on March 26, 2002 10:31:41 AM
mballai, you keep trying to hammer your work ethics into everyone else here like yours is the only way and the best way.
People here are trying to tell you that their way of doing things may be different for their situation but it is just as successful.
In other words, one size diaper doesn't fit all.
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dellastreet
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posted on March 26, 2002 10:33:04 AM
mballai,
My what a condescending attitude you have! Many of us are very successful sellers, and we don't do it your way. So what? Why do you care?
To those of you who ship every day, I say Way To Go! It doesn't work for me, but whatever works is a good thing, IMHO.
This is serious business to me. I'm FT and depend solely on online sales for my livelihood, and I make a pretty decent living at it. I think I can better serve my customers (and my bank balance) if I run my business efficiently according to my standards. I do things in batches. Sometimes I will spend an entire day looking for new inventory. Some days I work on descriptions. Other days I work on processing payments and preparing for shipment. Sometimes, I even attend to having a life. I find this to be a more efficient way of running my business. And I do have many repeat customers and nearly 5000 feedback, 99.53% positive. Others do it differently. Frankly, it doesn't matter to me how you do your business, only how I do mine.
Chill out, mballai. You don't have a lock on the best way for everyone to do business. If your way works for you, you go girl! Just don't get your knickers in a knot if someone else has a differing opinion.
Della
Sometimes my mind wanders, and sometimes it leaves entirely.
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RainyBear
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posted on March 26, 2002 12:57:51 PM
I ship next day and do have a full-time job as well as a part-time job which I do from home. The reasons this has worked for me so far are:
1. My eBay volumes are very low.
2. My work schedule is flexible AND I work right above a post office.
If I had a rigid work schedule or more eBay business to deal with it would be tough. I plan to list like mad next month because of the postal rate increases in June, so it will be a test of just how much I can cram into my "free" time.
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outoftheblue
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posted on March 26, 2002 01:37:38 PM
RainyBear
I could be way off saying this but I think that maybe the post office raising their rates could be a good thing. They need some competition. I'm thinking of switching to another service, however, I still haven't heard much feedback on Fedex home delivery. Their rates are attractive...
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mballai
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posted on March 26, 2002 01:38:59 PM
Maybe no one ever considered this fact:
THE ITEM IS PAID FOR
Would you shop at a store, pay for something, and then have someone tell you at the counter:
A. The stockboy has a life; come back Tuesday or Wednesday to pick it up. Better yet, we'll call you when we feel like the stockboy is in the mood to get. We have a life too.
B. The store has its own standards and it depends on who is at the counter as to what the standards are and whether they can go in the back and get your merchandise. They're under time constraints and you are not the only customer and besides there are other people they have to ring up and they have to put out new items and dust the shelves and go to the bathroom and have a life and the store hours are just not convenient and we have a lot of items to bring out and besides we do this full-time.
C. We don't care what other stores do; you are in my store and I'm the boss and I just don't feel like getting your stuff for you right now. Besides I have to attend to business right now, so call my secretary and I will find a day when I can get your merchandise for you. Hopefully I won't have a family emergency that day or want to have a life. If I do we'll just have to reschedule.
D. You can't have your money back just because I won't give you your merchandise when you pay for it. See my TOS says that you have to wait until I get around to giving you your merchandise first. Then you have 7 milliseconds to claim a refund. When you ask for your refund, I will probably be busy having a life.
How many of you shop in stores like these?
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dellastreet
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posted on March 26, 2002 01:53:15 PM
*sigh*
You win. I give up.
Sometimes my mind wanders, and sometimes it leaves entirely.
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eauctionmgnt
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posted on March 26, 2002 01:55:56 PM
mballai,
I've held my tongue on this thread... but your comments are WAY off base!!! You repeatedly refer to "apply real world business standards in your operation". Well just where on earth are you getting these real world standards that you're basing your argument on?!?! There are NO clear-cut standards in mail-order business (and yes, that is what eBay sellers are). There are companies out there that will ship the day they receive the order.... but on the other hand there are an equal number of companies that state a 6-8 WEEK delivery time for their products. (ever watch infomercials??) Grow up and admit that your way is certainly NOT a standard and also NOT how everybody should run their business. If it works for you, that's great. But other methods can work just as well.
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mballai
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posted on March 26, 2002 02:23:42 PM
Apparently everyone here has been in a coma for the last couple of decades and knows nothing about applying cycle time standards to operating a business. This is what real world business standards are all about. Every top world class business applies these principles. What one business does or doesn't do isn't the point. In essence you cut out everything that slows down your business process without detracting from how well you do it.
It doesn't normally take 48-72 hours to package most items and ship them. It makes no difference as to how long you take to do something, but if you can cut down how long it takes, you will operate your business more efficiently. If you really can't get to the PO every day, that isn't the issue. If you can do something in two days instead of three or four, that's an improvement. if something doesn't add value to your business process, get rid of it or change it so it does.
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on March 26, 2002 02:39:01 PM
Everyone: The Moon is made of tofu.
I mean it. I don't care what you tell me, you clueless sods; the moon is a large spongy ball of tofu. Don't ask me to explain how a compressed soybean product got put into orbit around the Earth. I'm smarter than you and I KNOW that it is. I don't HAVE to tell you how I know. And if you had half a brain in your heads, you would know it too. What's the matter with you people, have you been in a coma the last several decades? Those astronauts LIED. You people know NOTHING about lunar geology.
I'd rather risk irritating some of you by telling you this than to agree that the Moon is made of rock. I don't know why you're under the illusion that it's made of rock, but it's your downfall, not mine.
And if you bother arguing me, that means the time you spent doing that would be better spent studying Lunar geology. No wonder you don't know anything about the Moon.
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morgantown
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posted on March 26, 2002 02:43:39 PM
Oh I love Tofu! I'm having Lite-Life Italian links tonight for supper! Yum, yum. Look out Moon, I'm coming to eat you!
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fluffythewondercat
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posted on March 26, 2002 02:56:43 PM
Yay! Another convert to Lunar Tofu-ology!
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marcn
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posted on March 26, 2002 02:59:41 PM
Mballai:
Just to let you know, I am in agreement with what you are saying. I want to make it clear that this is just my opinion and I am not saying anyone else is wrong. Cycle time and cost reduction are the keys to business success.
Marc
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outoftheblue
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posted on March 26, 2002 03:22:17 PM
>>"Would you shop at a store, pay for something, and then have someone tell you at the counter:....come back Tuesday or Wednesday to pick it up."<<
As a matter of fact the place I purchased my last 2 computers from told me to come back in 3-5 days and pick it up. I could have gone to Comp USA and purchased a similar but inferior computer for about $200 more (and left with it that day) but I chose to purchase it from the first store I mentioned. They have the best prices and systems. They have a dozen times more business than any other computer store in the area. I don't mind waiting a few days for what I really want.
Edited to add: I don't think there is anyone here who would tell their customers "I have a life, so you have to wait".
We schedule all items to ship within 2 business days (M-F). Sometimes they may slip to 4 depending on circumstances.
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