posted on May 24, 2002 12:01:35 AM new
copy of email sent to [email protected]
I challenge you to discuss paypal with me on TV. I don't think you have the intestinal fortitude (guts) to do it. If you accept I'll show what your company is really about. If you refuse you'll only be admitting your company steals from it's customers and is violating the law.
Waiting for your reply,
Stoney McGerald
I think you know how to contact me
P.S. peter thiel didn't have the guts to show up at the arbitration (suddenly called out of town) He also run from the process servers when they tried to serve him in a deformation suit.
My challenge stands. Now show your true colors. DO EITHER OF YOU HAVE THE GUTS.
posted on May 24, 2002 09:05:59 AM new
Here's a challenge to you club1man. Leave your web page unaltered and let people look at how you "do business" on the internet.
I'm sorry you had to deal with lawyers and ran up a large debit. I also have a bit of contempt for someone that employs your business methods and tactics. You seem to feel you can bully PayPal into some sort of settlement, you've held that belief for a year and a half now. You've gone to the media, you've solicited countless people to support your fight, you turned to the lawyers, and you've haunted this messageboard as the poor victim.
Let others look at your web page, I'd like to see a show of hands of people that are just jumping with excitement at the idea of sending you $199.00 (regularly $499.00) to learn how to make $5,000 - $10,000 a month on their computer for a few hours of work a week.
You spend a great deal of time looking for help in your financial battles on this message board, but on your web site it seems you just sit on your yacht and the money keeps pouring in.
Call me a hard sell customer. I'm sure you can convince others to send you $199.00 for instructions on turning on the money faucet.
No PayPal isn't for you, it never was, and it never will be. I'd imagine 99.9% of the people accepting payments by PayPal aren't spending weeks on their yacht like you. They are just some working folks that don't know about the get rich quick programs.
posted on May 24, 2002 09:23:07 AM new
You make my answer easy.
First the program on the website is a good program if you spend the time and promote it.
Second I had to sell the boat thanks to paypal. I deal in legitimate goods and services.
Second i don't care what you think. The facts are that paypal is a company out of control and I will do my best to put a stop to it. When you run into problems with them I'll still try to help you but i'll also say "I TOLD YOU SO"
P.S. It was paypals lawyers that run up 338k in legal fees and they don't mind paying it they just up their fees to people like you. The ex's didn't spend their money suing me they spent yours.
[ edited by club1man on May 24, 2002 09:29 AM ]
posted on May 24, 2002 11:16:37 AM new
I just received this email. It's interesting that the arbitrator seems to be directly tyed to paypal. One of the clients listed on his page is Hewlett-Packard.
I don't know if anyone has this information but, I did a Better
Business Bureau search on "Paypal" without using a city or state and
this is what I turned up:
1 to 3 of about 3 Matches. PAYPAL, INC.
303 Bryant St
MOUNTAIN VIEW, CA
PAYPAL, INC.
11128 John Galt Blvd
OMAHA, NE
HEWLETT - PACKARD
(PAYPAL.COM)
(address not in database)
I clicked on the Hewlett Packard link and sure enough, it says that,
as supplied by the company, Hewlett Packard is doing business as
X.com and Paypal.com. I wonder how an arbitrator can be unbiased
against a company that he represents. Maybe that's why Paypal forces
unsatisfied customers into arbitration.
posted on May 24, 2002 06:00:07 PM new
The Hewlett Packard Link (HP) has to be a mistake, they have been in business for years and make some of the best Laser Printers on the Market
posted on May 24, 2002 06:30:03 PM new
I know I have an office jet 85 and i like it but i'm wandering. I called HP today and I'm waiting for them to get back to me.
posted on May 27, 2002 07:26:29 AM new
UARA thx for the post very interesting....club1man i can make 10k a month if i give u 199 a month.....why not just make 10k a month times as much as you want as this is an endless supply of get rich and you can paypal lawyers fees off in no time and still have a few million left over.
posted on May 27, 2002 08:17:33 AM new
Yea I try to never post to clubmans endless blabber but JESUS give me a break already. Night club owner, Get rich quick schemes and I would bet at some time a Car salesmans. What a crock and crook. now its back to the ole ignore option. and save me the ole I'm just a honest working man standing on my High moral ground crap to.
posted on May 27, 2002 08:17:34 AM new
MrFoxy There are many schemes on the net.
This however is not one of them. People who have purchased this program have done well with it as long as they worked at it. I purchased it about 3 yrs ago. It is not a business where you buy it and that's all you get I'm still getting free updates from them. If your looking for schemes I can give you a lenghty list as I've researched them and even unknowingly bought into some as I'm sure we all have. I don't and will not promote "get rich quick" schemes and hope you don't either. Making money takes work. I back mine up with a guarantee.
It does seem funny how you can critize me for being honest and promote Paypal for stealing from people. Have you ever heard a person on this or any other board say that I have stolen their money. ANSWER NO.But this board and the hundreds of others wouldn't be here if paypal wasn't stealing from it's customers.
Paypal has already paid it's lawyers and they did it with customers money, again stealing from them. Would you spend 338k to get 13k from someone? Sure you would if it wasn't your money you were spending.
If you want to know why paypals rates are so high just check and see how many legal firms they have on retainer,again with YOU'RE money.
[ edited by club1man on May 27, 2002 08:33 AM ]
posted on May 27, 2002 10:07:29 AM new
I am not critizing you I had problems with Paypal also however not on the scale as losing over $300k like yourself.
I think logically and if someone can make 10s of thousands of dollars why tell others keep it to yourself and rake in the money! Its like that stupid no deposit home purchase thing on television.
posted on May 27, 2002 11:21:52 AM new
Mrfoxy The only logical answer to that is that to make money you have to advertise. It's called selling. I suggest you read further on the program---http://hometown.aol.com/club1man/MYCASHFLOW/index.html
You sell on the net as I do. It's just we sell different things. I hope your's are as legit as mine. If I sound abrupt I don't mean to, but when your castigated by someone that averages more than 3 posts on this board a day it tends to jerk my chain. He and another can call me a crook with out any proof but come to the aid of paypal which supports pornagraphy, phedofiles and the likes. I suppose to them, phedofiles are better than nite club owners and used car salesmen.
[ edited by club1man on May 27, 2002 11:25 AM ]
posted on May 27, 2002 11:30:55 AM new
i am in no way calling u a crook merely stating why bother to tell others for example if i knew the winner of the next 50 horse races at belmont park would i tell others? course i wouldn't i would simply bet on them all cash in and retire..........
posted on May 27, 2002 11:47:27 AM new
Mrfoxy I did not say that you called me a crook even though you made the reference to "SCHEME". As for the horses I might just keep that to my self.
By the way MR Uaru I left my website up and was man enough to answer any criticism. Where are max and peter.
[ edited by club1man on May 27, 2002 12:30 PM ]
posted on May 28, 2002 01:26:47 PM new
Got this from the California sec. of state
Corporation
HEWLETT-PACKARD CREDIT CORPORATION
Number: C2129576 Date Filed: 1/5/1999 Status: active
Jurisdiction: DELAWARE
Mailing Address
3000 HANOVER ST
PALO ALTO, CA 94304
Agent for Service of Process
CORPORATION SERVICE COMPANY WHICH WILL DO BUSINESS IN CALIFORNIA AS CSC - LAWYERS INCORPORATING SERVICE
2730 GATEWAY OAKS DR., SUITE 100
SACRAMENTO, CA 95833
Corporation
PAYPAL ASSET MANAGEMENT, INC.
Number: C2174470 Date Filed: 8/27/1999 Status: active
Jurisdiction: DELAWARE
Mailing Address
1840 EMBARCADERO RD
PALO ALTO, CA 94303
Agent for Service of Process
MARK SULLIVAN
1840 EMBARCADERO RD
PALO ALTO, CA 94303
Corporation
PAYPAL, INC.
Number: C2171783 Date Filed: 7/30/1999 Status: active
Jurisdiction: DELAWARE
Mailing Address
1840 EMBARCADERO ROAD
PALO ALTO, CA 94303
Agent for Service of Process
CORPORATION SERVICE COMPANY WHICH WILL DO BUSINESS IN CALIFORNIA AS CSC - LAWYERS INCORPORATING SERVICE
2730 GATEWAY OAKS DR., SUITE 100
SACRAMENTO, CA 95833
posted on May 29, 2002 04:53:09 PM newclub1manBy the way MR Uaru I left my website up and was man enough to answer any criticism. Where are max and peter.
I tip my hat to you on that. I agree it takes a set of balls bigger than I have to leave a web site up there like that.
I'm sure max and peter are about to cave in to your demands, hang in there.
posted on May 29, 2002 05:43:58 PM new
Thank you MR UARU even for the left handed compliment. There is still hope for you. That web site has been there for three years and I'll stand behind everything in it. Except that paypal ruined my business. But I will survive to see their downfall. Hope you don't have alot of their over inflated stock.
I had a friend that had some other stock and he was rich one day and poor the next. Personally I think their stock is being artificially pumped up or at least that's what some of the talk is.
posted on May 29, 2002 07:44:34 PM new
MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 29, 2002--PayPal, Inc. PYPL, a leading online payment service, today announced that the company will participate in The First Annual Jolson Merchant Partners Research Conference to be held June 3-5, 2002 at the Park Hyatt Hotel in San Francisco, California.
Peter A. Thiel, PayPal Chief Executive Officer, is scheduled to present on Tuesday, June 4, 2002 at 4:05 p.m PST. Replay of the webcast will be available at http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ir-calendar-outside.
About PayPal
PayPal enables any business or consumer with email to send and receive online payments securely, conveniently and cost-effectively. PayPal's account-based network builds on the existing financial infrastructure of bank accounts and credit cards to create a global payment system. PayPal has more than 16 million member accounts, including more than 3 million business accounts. In 2001, PayPal processed over $3.5 billion in payments.
Based in Mountain View, California, PayPal is available to users in 38 countries including the United States. Further information about the company can be found at www.paypal.com.
Contact Information:
PayPal, Inc.
Sravanthi Agrawal, 888-337-3533
[email protected]
or
Applied Communications
Aparna Choudhari, 415-365-0222
[email protected]
posted on May 29, 2002 07:51:46 PM new
NEW YORK, May 28, 2002 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- FORTUNE announced today that Paypal, Inc. (PYPL) will be added to the FORTUNE e-50(TM)Index (Symbol: FEX) after the close of trading on Thursday, May 30, 2002, replacing component WorldCom, Inc. (WCOM).
Paypal, headquartered in Palo Alto, Calif., operates an online payment network that allows users to send and receive monetary payments. With more than 16 million member accounts, the company processed over $1 billion dollars during the first quarter of 2002. Paypal reported revenue of $48.8 million for the three-month period ended 3/31/2002.
posted on May 29, 2002 08:02:31 PM new
Some more cut and pasting, maybe I will find the Quarterly profit reports for Enron for June of last year. They looked really nice too.
posted on May 29, 2002 08:14:22 PM new
old news tom and stupid. Their promoting their image. Your promoting you stupidity Take a vacation and dry out and when you come back see how much you stock is worth.
And also thanks your continued stupidity actually brightens up my day. Gee I thought you weren't gonna post today. Appreciate you not ruining my day.
posted on May 29, 2002 08:52:09 PM new
Stock can go belly up and they can freeze my account tommorrow and I still have made more money from paypal than it cost them to cover racking your A## over the coals so I am just hear to Please. Thats why I posted so I could make your day. I was going to fix the ole ignore button but this is just to much dang fun ,I would have thought you had that little tidbit of info by now. Sad to say after friday afternoon I'll be away for some time but I'll see if I can't arrange for someone else to post in my place for you. Heck I'll be driving through texas to get the port so maybe I'll swing by and say hi and buy an Ice cream cone from ya !
posted on May 30, 2002 09:16:48 PM new
tomyou wrote: "...and I still have made more money from paypal than it cost them to cover racking your A## over the coals"
That would be easy, since it didn't cost them anything... they aren't the ones paying for it, club1man is.
