niel35
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:13:50 PM new
I have a buyer who wants to pay me almost $1,000. He lives in Japan. Low feedback but good. What do you think??
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glassgrl
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:19:36 PM new
paypal or other?
they have lot's of money over there!
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tOMWiii
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:21:27 PM new
Of course! Without a doubt!
Just as long as I can ALSO see PIGS flying over the WHITE CLIFFS of DOVER, singing "Born to be Wild,"...
 
"There may be some tough times here in America. But this country has gone through tough times before, and we're going to do it again." ~ George W Bush
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niel35
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:22:17 PM new
he wants to pay PayPal.
Tom - so I guess BidPay is the way to go
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glassgrl
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:26:24 PM new
I wouldn't be afraid to do a bank transfer if he was agreeable.
The Japan people love to buy and usually are very discerning buyers.
For instance if you had something that was rare and unique they will bid and bid HIGH.
I love selling to Japan myself.
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niel35
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:27:49 PM new
I have sold to Japan before and no problems, but this is a large amount of money IMHO
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glassgrl
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:29:49 PM new
bank transfer = no chargeback
just tell him the PP fees will eat you up and do the transfer.
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niel35
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:34:29 PM new
GG - I tried that with another buyer and he said he would pay the PP fees.
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glassgrl
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:36:18 PM new
is what you had "rare or unique"?
talk to them. they usually are very nice people. don't freak out YET.
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niel35
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:39:56 PM new
one of a kind, rare and unique. I am not freaking out. I am sure he wants it. I just emailed him and said I would prefer bidpay, money order or wire transfer.
Sayonara
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glassgrl
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:48:37 PM new
well there you go - rare and unique.
way to go!
take a deep breath and say "all is well".
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niel35
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posted on March 15, 2005 03:50:53 PM new
thanks people. will let you know the outcome
When a problem arises, first of all I panic, then I go to community and you are always helpful and come up with a solution.
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glassgrl
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posted on March 15, 2005 04:14:09 PM new
I had a pair of women's reebok that were new old stock. A girl in Japan paid $100 for them and left me good feedback.
Another bidder was some golf club building equipment. He was very nice. Had me ship it to his brother in the USA and wanted me to let him know if I had any more for sale.
Another bidder that outbid me on some rare cassette tapes - when I emailed her and asked her if she would make me some copies of the tapes - she copied the tapes and sent me her originals! Exquisitely wrapped I might add. I offered to pay her and she wouldn't take any money. I ended up donating them to a church group that also listened to them (after I made my own copies) and sent her some copies of my own tapes I had.
Do let us know how it turns out for you!
[ edited by glassgrl on Mar 15, 2005 04:15 PM ]
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stopwhining
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posted on March 15, 2005 06:52:37 PM new
The Japanese post office sells US dollar denominated money order,he may have to buy a few to come up to 1k,but you can cash them at your own post office ,just bring photo id.
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Eat grass,kick ass,never go belly up!
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niel35
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posted on March 15, 2005 06:57:47 PM new
thanks stop - thats the way to go then. I will tell him
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photosensitive
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posted on March 15, 2005 07:51:07 PM new
Question:
I see that wire transfers are being recommended. I have used them to pay foreign sellers and offered them as an option to foreign buyers although none have used it. I thought it was a safe option. Recently we had a sale to Malta from our online store. After the buyer had problems with his local Western Union I suggested wire transfer. My sister's bank (Bank of America) told her "Don't do it! If you send him your account number and routing information he will have everything he needs to clean out your account." I said it was the same information as on your check so she called back and talked to someone else who said "You should not ever send a check to a foreign seller. They can steal all your money."
The buyer finally sent $100 in cash. The advise from the bank is contrary to everything I have heard. Am I right or is the bank?
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The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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sparkz
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posted on March 15, 2005 08:19:32 PM new
Although I'm not a great fan of Bank Of America, they do more foreign transactions in one day than all of us in this forum will do in a lifetime. I would tend to listen to them and heed their advice. I personally would never give my primary account information to anyone for a transfer of funds. But I do have a couple of seldom used accounts with very low balances that would be perfect for a transfer. After I got the transferred funds out of it, they would be perfectly welcome to loot the balance. It would net them the lowest wages per hour they ever worked for 
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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fenix03
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posted on March 15, 2005 08:48:26 PM new
I do foreign bank transfers from B of A three to four times a month. I can do a transfer over the phone but only after I have initiated a transfer to that reciepient from in the branch, filled out all of the paperwork and put my signature on the authorization. Once I have done that I can have phone authorizaton for transfers to that same account. When I start working with a new vendor, I again have to intiate the first transfer from within the branch. You cannot get money from someones account just because you know the account number. Our banks are behind the times but not THAT behind.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
[ edited by fenix03 on Mar 15, 2005 08:49 PM ]
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fenix03
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posted on March 15, 2005 08:58:17 PM new
Photo - you would be amazed how ill informed the customer service people at B of A are. They are good at letting you know where the nearest ATM is but for the rest of the info I have found that more often than not, the out of the norm questions are answered according to the individuals personal knowledge or beliefs which doesn't always coincide with actual facts.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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dejapooh
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posted on March 15, 2005 09:01:42 PM new
After the Nagano Olympics, I sold pins to Japan a few dozen times. I've never had a problem. The japanese take honor and honest VERY seriously. I made it standard Procedure to stand about 10 feet from my table of pins and sell off of my shirt. The pins on my table were marked with prices. people would walk up and pay for the pins they removed from my display. I precounted the pins and in well over 1000 transactions, I didn't lose a single pin. I would be happy to take paypal from japan for $1000. If you are REALLY concerned, the japanese were also used to doing bank transfers. I think bidpay has a $750 limit. Western Union money transfer is also acceptable. My bank takes Japanese Postal MOney Orders in Dollars with no fee, so that is another option.
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rustygumbo
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posted on March 15, 2005 10:32:36 PM new
NO PAYPAL NO WAY!!! If they have a stolen card, or stolen account and use it to pay you and you ship it, you are not only out of your merchandise, but Paypal will issue a chargeback and charge you a chargeback fee. I suggest Bidpay, Cashiers Check in US funds, Money Orders, or Bank transfer. NO PAYPAL!!!!! Trust me, I've been burned for a few hundred bucks and boy does it sting. There is a huge loophole with Paypal and shipping International. Even a good standing ebayer can manipulate it very easily. They can inform Paypal that they never received the item (even if they did receive it) and the chargeback will go through no matter what you have as proof that they received it. Paypal offers NO seller protection for International shipments. You do it at your own risk and it is NOT worth it. I've been selling on ebay for almost 6 years, and that is a major no no.
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sparkz
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posted on March 15, 2005 10:44:44 PM new
If you're considering Paypal, why not just take a personal check issued on his local bank? The risk factor is exactly the same.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
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agitprop
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posted on March 16, 2005 01:33:45 AM new
niel35,
Our preference would be to deposit to our Japanese bank account since the yen is growing stronger, and no bank fees are payable. You probably don't have such a convenience available, so have your buyer go to their local Post Office and ask for a "Kokusai Kawasai" (i.e. International Postal Money Order) in US dollars. Maximum amount of any IPMO is US$500 so they'll need to get two or more depending on your shipping charges. Cost of each IPMO is 500 yen, they are pink and can be encashed at all good US Post Offices at no charge. Of course they may not have that much cash on hand...
photosensitive,
My sister's bank (Bank of America) told her "Don't do it! If you send him your account number and routing information he will have everything he needs to clean out your account." I said it was the same information as on your check so she called back and talked to someone else who said "You should not ever send a check to a foreign seller. They can steal all your money."
The short answer is - your sister banks with idiots. If all that was needed were the account & routing details from your checks to steal all your money, then Bank of America account holders would have been plundered years ago, or closed by the Federal Reserve for having such useless security.
If you want to stir things up for the idiots at that Bank of America branch, write their local newspaper about it. Sit back and wait for all the angry letters from their customers, then the denials from the BofA PR flaks.
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niel35
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posted on March 16, 2005 04:18:33 AM new
Thanks everyone
I just got an email from him this morning
"hello
i will send the money by money order $ 1036.09 tommorow
please teach me your adress ??"
So we are on the right track.
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stopwhining
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posted on March 16, 2005 06:08:59 AM new
Photosensitive,
I just wired fund to Japan via Bank of America thru their internet site.
The retail clerks dont know what they are talking about,there is no way to wire money out of your bank account.
What they could be telling you is that nigerians etc could have your aba number,account number,name and addr on the check and take it to their local printer and have these checks printed .
Then they will buy things with these checks and you may not know until monthly statement comes or the check bounces.
It is possible to even print checks with your pc and printer-someone would take a check issued by corporation for say 200 dollars,bring it up on the pc monitir,alter it to 20,000 dollars and clear it thru latin american banking network.
If you look at the refund/rebate check issued by companies such as Protor and Gamble for your detergent ,you will see it said not valid for more than 20 dollars and cashed before such a date,these are all coming from an account meant for small amount.
Checks printed with pc printer do not have the perfolated edge ,thats one way to tell.
Also,if the check is not printed with magnetic ink for the aba number,account number etc,you may wonder why not?? and call the issuing bank.
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Eat grass,kick ass,never go belly up!
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photosensitive
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posted on March 16, 2005 07:18:55 AM new
Niel35, Glad your transaction to Japan seems to be going well.
Thanks to all who gave me advise on wire transfers. I think the majority opinion seems to be that it is an OK way to deal with foreign sales. In this case I think it would have been a good choice. Never thought of Malta as a hot bed of scammers. That transaction seems to be on track although as it turned out the option of sending cash could have been a problem. The USPS in its (not uncommon) lack of care delivered the envelope with the cash to the wrong address! Fortunately the recipient handed over the envelope.
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The illiterate of the future will be the person ignorant of the use of the camera as well as of the pen.
Maholy-Nagy, Vision in Motion, 1947
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glassgrl
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posted on March 16, 2005 07:38:12 AM new
could the option for wire transfers not be handled from bank to bank instead of the information going through the customers? I realize the customer would have to say that they are expecting a wire transfer...
anyway I've never done one and I'm just musing aloud....
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fenix03
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posted on March 16, 2005 09:42:27 AM new
Glass - they are handled bank to bank but unless the recipient and payer are directly involved, the banks won't know what account to remove funds from or what account to deposit it in. 
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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stopwhining
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posted on March 16, 2005 10:29:42 AM new
fenix is right,bank wiretransfer is at the bank to bank level,if sender does not give your bank account number or your name,your bank will have no way to know how to credit the incoming fund.
Your name is not unique either,but it is better than nothing,name and account number combo is the best,as sometimes account number can be messed up in a transfer.
Glasgirl,
you will recive a notice from your bank in the mail informing you that they have credited your account and the fee (ranges from 5-25 dollars) for accepting incoming wire.If you have a regional or small city bank,it wil go thru a big bank,then there is double incoming wire fees.
In some parts of the world,businesses will only accept wiretransfer to avoid counterfeit cash,cashier check etc.
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Eat grass,kick ass,never go belly up!
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niel35
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posted on March 24, 2005 04:25:17 AM new
Received payment yesterday morning - 2 money orders.
Then last night I receive an email from the next highest bidder who is also from Japan.
He wants to know if I sent him a Second Chance offer as he received one but thinks it is a fraud. IT IS! I never sent him a 2nd S C as I have already received payment and mailed the widget. The mail the 2nd S C received had a user name and I checked on that and this guy has only 1 feedback and that is from another guy from Singapore who has been NARU'd. (The plot thickens) He bot something for .01. I guess just to get a feedback rating.
The chap from Japan is not sure how to go about informing EBay so guess its on my shoulders. I told him to send some notice to EBay so I would have backup info.
I also told him because of the reputation of the Japanese being so honorable, etc., someone is taking advantage of it.
And as Jack sez, "The Beat Goes On............."
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