TOMWIII
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posted on March 11, 2005 08:29:26 AM new
Well, DON'T!
Had one pretzel-choker buy 4 (count'em! F-O-U-R) scales from Ralphie's store & then "pay" with an eCheck~
We THANKED him & then waited...& waited...&waited:
Now da chickens come home to ROOST:
SELLERS BEWARE! SENT PRODUCT ON DAY FUNDS WERE TO CLEAR, THEY DIDNT !!NO PAYMENT
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Non paying bidder,No communication,No funds available for high items BEWARE!!!!!
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(pos left first & then...):
Great communication. A pleasure to do business with.
but...WHOOPS!
Follow-up by XXXXXXX: BUYERS FUNDS WERE FROZEN BY PAYPAL AFTER RECIEVING ITEM BUYER NOT COMMUNICATING
...the moral?
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents,
more and more closely, the inner soul of the people.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land
will reach their heart's desire at last and
the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."~
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
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Libra63
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posted on March 11, 2005 08:35:48 AM new
So now you are out 4 scales?
I sometimes do if the I am going to the Post office and the item is a high ticket one. I hate making those trips. I know I can mail from home but I like the receipt that I get when I go there as everything is in one place.
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estatesalestuff
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posted on March 11, 2005 08:40:17 AM new
How awful, Tom! ... you are definitely going to pull his contact info and call him! Yes???
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cta
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posted on March 11, 2005 08:51:47 AM new
I NEVER ship until an eCheck has been cleared. I'm sorry, but I don't trust anyone! I still wait 10 days on personal checks, and I even wait 3 days after a PayPal payment before shipping. Never had one complaint about the wait, but I have put it into my TOS.
Hope you have some recourse Tom. 
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Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. ~
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TOMWIII
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posted on March 11, 2005 08:54:44 AM new
YIKES!
Hey! Ralphie, ya dumb mutt! Did we word that wrong?
WE didn't ship nada! WE waited two weeks until PayPal finally BOUNCED this bozo's "eChecks" de RUBBER!
THE COMMENTS above are the NEGS from sellers who DID (apparently) ship the goods before official "OK" from PayPal...
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents,
more and more closely, the inner soul of the people.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land
will reach their heart's desire at last and
the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."~
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
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estatesalestuff
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posted on March 11, 2005 08:59:41 AM new
Oh Lord ... then you are crying on their behalf! ... now I get it. lol
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trai
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posted on March 11, 2005 09:40:22 AM new
I sometimes do if the I am going to the Post office and the item is a high ticket one.
Why would anybody ship an item, especially a high ticket one before an e-check clears. Thats just asking for trouble. Never do it.
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ltray
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posted on March 11, 2005 09:54:04 AM new
And why is this guy not NRU'd. Checked his feedback. New user 2/05! Looks like he got lots of goodies without paying.
I had a new user 2/05 spend $65 on a popular item. Checked his buying history. 40 auctions won in the 30 days since he registed. You betcha I didn't ship until payment cleared!
I know it seems like a hassle. And I know you high volume guys don't have time to check out all of your buyers. But if you smell a rat, take a look and you will probably find one.
Ralphie just did. Good boy! And thanks for alerting the rest of us.
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ltray
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posted on March 11, 2005 10:08:24 AM new
Its amazing what you can learn about someone by checking their buying pattern. This jerk is living it up in his 1997 Lincoln. He races pocket bikes and is dining on his free Omaho steaks. Oh, and don't forget that $1500(!) Honda Generator he now has so he can still shop Ebay after the electric company turned his lights off.
Dollars to donuts, I am willing to bet he originally set up a PP account with a stolen credit card.
Tomwii, if you have the time. Do the world a favor and write the other sellers. Alert them to what is going on. Suggest they file a mail fraud claim and most certainly suggest they contact PP and Ebay and make sure this guy doesn't screw anyone else.
I see he quit his buying spree on 2/23. Probably means he has set up a new buyer ID. Sellers beware!!!
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amber
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posted on March 11, 2005 10:14:05 AM new
So sorry to hear about that Tom, you must be sick about it. I had it happen once, but with a small amount. I guess it's a case of learning a lesson you never forget. I hope you can get something done about it.
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stopwhining
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posted on March 11, 2005 10:20:49 AM new
amber,
Tom did not ship those scales,other sellers did.
does his bank levy a fee on bounced e -check??
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Eat grass,kick ass,never go belly up!
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TOMWIII
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posted on March 11, 2005 10:28:48 AM new
amber:
Although i do ship after BidPay email #2, I never ship after a PayPal eCheck until da moola is in Ralphie's grubby liddle paws 
itray:
You said:
"Tomwii, if you have the time. Do the world a favor and write the other sellers."
YES, I wanted to, as, obviously, this "person" is over the "3-strikes" limit -- but HOW can I get the SELLERS' email addresses???
He really BUSHED-OVER these guys!
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents,
more and more closely, the inner soul of the people.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land
will reach their heart's desire at last and
the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."~
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
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TOMWIII
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posted on March 11, 2005 10:31:40 AM new
ALSO...
This is one of the very few times I've ever left a NEGATIVE without any protection -- this "bidder" is such a putz, that a retalitory neg from him would serve as a badge of honor...
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents,
more and more closely, the inner soul of the people.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land
will reach their heart's desire at last and
the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."~
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
[ edited by TOMWIII on Mar 11, 2005 10:32 AM ]
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ltray
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posted on March 11, 2005 11:28:47 AM new
Tomwii, it is easy to write the other sellers. Just click on the auctions Mr. Deadbeat won and then click on the ask the seller a question tab. Ebay will send the email for you.
In the past I have had good success putting together a linch mob for the likes of this guy. The other sellers were more than happy to help me tie a noose.
I just typed up one letter and sent it to all the other sellers. I also called the sheriff's dept in the buyer's home town and alerted them to what was going on.
You should have the buyer's address by now. It will show on PP and on your Ebay sold item list when you click "View Payment status".
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Roadsmith
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posted on March 11, 2005 09:19:24 PM new
It's good to be reminded of this awful possibility. Once - and only once! - I mistakenly left positive feedback and mailed an item without the e-check's clearing. I sweated bullets on that one; fortunately it turned out okay.
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agitprop
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posted on March 13, 2005 01:39:44 AM new
Any attempt "to obtain items without payment" is Federal mail fraud if said item was so delivered to purchaser via USPS. Every count of mail fraud means another 5 years federal prison time for them with NO parole so make sure every purchase counts. 
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TOMWIII
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posted on March 14, 2005 11:09:53 AM new
"Groovey, man!" 
He's now sporting a nifty NARU JACKET!
"There may be some tough times here in America. But this country has gone through tough times before, and we're going to do it again." ~ George W Bush
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classicrock000
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posted on March 14, 2005 11:25:02 AM new
hey Tom-good post-give that dog a bone
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sanmar
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posted on March 14, 2005 04:24:34 PM new
Why wo9uld you want to take the risk by shipping before the e-check clears. Even P/P warns you that there is no $$ until the check is cleared. I have had a few & they have all been AOK, but I don't ship until P/P says so.
Life Is Too Short To Drink Bad Wine
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TOMWIII
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posted on March 14, 2005 04:34:47 PM new
No scheiss, Sherlock!
"There may be some tough times here in America. But this country has gone through tough times before, and we're going to do it again." ~ George W Bush
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ebabestreasures
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posted on March 15, 2005 09:27:23 AM new
I saw this post yesterday but didn't open it.
Then yesterday I had a guy ask about an item which he had paid with echeck. He had good FB and it was only $15.00 so I shipped.
Guess I should have read this yesterday?? Oh well - not much money even if I lose it.
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