NearTheSea
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posted on September 15, 2003 02:20:39 PM new
Ok, dumb question  (again) but can someone tell me exactly what enamelware and graniteware is?
Is it some kind of metal, that is 'laquered' or painted over?
TIA!!
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antique519
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posted on September 15, 2003 05:26:20 PM new
Yes, it is metal that has a 'painted' on finish that I think is probably fired like the glaze on stoneware. On the hoosier type cabinets they frequently call them porcaline tops and it is the same type stuff. If it gets chipped if will chip like a dish, shallow at the edge tapering to the deeper center. Hope that makes sense.
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Libra63
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posted on September 15, 2003 07:10:21 PM new
Isn't enamel wear usually one color. White with red trim, or black trim sometimes blue trim. Granite ware to me is gray and speckled. That is how I determine what type it is. Am I right?
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NearTheSea
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posted on September 15, 2003 08:33:36 PM new
Thank you both
Yeah that is the question, why the two names; enamelware and graniteware.
What I have are 2 coffee mugs that are avocado? green with black trim, white interior, look handpainted, and stamped Made in Poland. So not sure if to put enamelware or what
I searched ebay... seems everyone puts both in the title: Enamelware and graniteware... so don't know..
But thanks you guys!
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sparkz
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posted on September 15, 2003 08:54:02 PM new
I think Libra is correct in her assessment. I always thought if it was speckled, it was graniteware. Otherwise it's enamelware.
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Roadsmith
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posted on September 15, 2003 11:11:53 PM new
I agree with Libra and Sparkz here. But, because we are all 'way smarter than the average buyer  , I'd put both in the title.
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Libra63
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posted on September 16, 2003 07:15:38 AM new
Webster says:
Granitware - enameled iron kitchenware
Enamelware - ware coated with enamel
does this help? I really doubt it....
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kiara
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posted on September 16, 2003 10:16:38 AM new
I agree with what others have said. As I understand it, enamelware is a plain color with a different colored rim and graniteware is speckled, swirled or mottled with colors.
They painted or dipped it in enamel paint and then fired it in a kiln.
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buyhigh
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posted on September 16, 2003 10:39:05 AM new
Granite ware is speckled enamel but the base metal can be very lightweight and not iron as Webster states. On the other hand I believe the enamelled Belgium Ware (came in red or yellow on the outside -white on the inside) and the newer stuff from France is enamelled over cast iron.
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on September 16, 2003 03:24:55 PM new
Okay - then what is "Agateware?"
Wayne
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NearTheSea
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posted on September 16, 2003 05:00:37 PM new
Thanks all! I think I'll go with enamelware.
Agateware? hmmmm, laquered agate? 
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NearTheSea
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posted on September 16, 2003 05:04:18 PM new
Hi Wayne,
just 'googled' Agateware, because it sounds interesting!
Here
Ware made by combining differently coloured clays or by combing together different colours of slip. In the former method the clays were usually laid in slabs, one on the other, and beaten out to form a homogeneous mass in which the colours were inextricably mingled
http://www.thepotteries.org/types/agateware.htm
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kiara
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posted on September 16, 2003 05:09:57 PM new
Agateware is also another name for enamelware or graniteware though I don't hear the term as often.
Some of the European pieces with the flowers are very pretty and I've seen some of them on ebay. This site has info on enamelware.
Pieces from the 50s-80s were made in Mexico, China and Poland.
http://www.imakenews.com/col/e_article000044213.cfm
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TheFamilyBiz
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posted on September 16, 2003 05:56:22 PM new
Kiara,
Agateware is seen all the time and referred to at local estate auctions I attend. If you look on eBay, you almost couldn't sell if if you filled it full of money first...
However, I was just at a sale on Saturday where things were going for more than eBay retail - and a few dealers came up to me to discuss the crazy people buying things at outrageous prices. The agateware (enamelware) coffee or teapots were fetching $100-150 and some items went as high as $300.
To give you another 2 examples of out-of-whack buying:
Fiesta water pitcher that just sold on eBay for $9.99 - at this sale - $40.00.
The most expensive peanut butter glass (they sold 200 of them) brought $430!!!! I think they cleared $5,000 on the bunch of them...
Wayne
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Libra63
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posted on September 16, 2003 08:56:29 PM new
Tell me what peanut butter glasses went so high> I use them for my good glassware at Christmas...Mine are clear and footed with matching sherbets. When they come out of the diswasher they are so bright and sparkling.
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kiara
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posted on September 16, 2003 09:08:03 PM new
Wayne, I only see about 7 listings on ebay for agateware that is enamelware. I notice that all the sellers are in the East.
Interesting about the auction prices. Maybe those people don't have computers and haven't caught up with the real world prices?
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antique519
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posted on September 17, 2003 05:36:16 AM new
Many terms used for antiques are regional. Maybe that is the case with agateware. I never hear it used in Central Illinois. We mostly use the term graniteware. Agate ware is a type of glass.
I especially found this to be true in furniture. We call a piece of furniture that contains a potty actually attached to the furniture a commode and a piece like a chest that you set the bowl and pitcher on and the slop jar inside the door is called a wash stand. When we go shopping in South Dakota both are called commodes. They also call small tables center tables while we call them lamp tables or occasional tables. If we advertised a center table around here most people would have no idea what we were talking about.
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cta
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posted on September 17, 2003 09:12:02 AM new
Here in Maine, we refer to Agateware as only the gray colored graniteware/enamelware. Don't know what others do, but that's what we think of as Agate or Agateware - just the gray.
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