posted on June 7, 2002 07:43:08 PM
There seems to be more and more deadbeats on ebay this summer I have had to send 3 non paying bidder notices to ebay this week. Is anyone else having the same problem?
[ edited by wwtraders1 on Jun 7, 2002 07:44 PM ]
posted on June 7, 2002 08:11:48 PM
i had my first this week. my first negative as well, a retalitory negative at that. this person never emailed me or paid after multiple reminders. i gave them a negative and i get an email from them stateing i never responded to their emails and im the one with issues and how they hope the negative theyre going to give me doesnt ruin my pretty lil numbers.
funny how i finally receive an email AFTER i gave a negative but all the other supposed emails i never got. just makes me realize how comfortable people are with lieng these days.
I filed 4 Final Value Credits this week. I look at some of the deadbeat bidders' feedback, and they have paid for other current auctions, but not for mine. I don't understand why they simply ignore all the emails I send them, especially the Non Paying Bidder alert email from Ebay. Very strange. I negged the 4 deadbeats, and I'm expecting some retaliatory feedback sent back to me. Oh well.
posted on June 7, 2002 08:47:52 PM
I will go all the way thru the eBay non paying bidder process before leaving a Neg at least that way eBay will have a record of the email if I get a retalitory Neg.
[ edited by wwtraders1 on Jun 8, 2002 04:29 PM ]
posted on June 7, 2002 11:30:12 PM
I'm 99% deadbeats-free. Of course I sell Bibles. ( just kidding on that part ). Actually I only have about 1 deadbeat per 100 auctions on eBay compared to about 1 deadbeat out of 12 on Yahoo. If you think there are a lot of deadbeats on eBay try some of the other sites. Holy smokes.
posted on June 8, 2002 12:29:22 AM
I've mentioned this on another link. It seems that since 9/11 I've rec'd more deadbeats.
Also there is a whole new crop of bidders who don't feel the need to send an e-mail... not even to tell you their payment is late but on its way. What is odd is that they can't find the time to respond to an e-mail until you file for NPB. All of a sudden they want to know why you filed a NPB. I am frustrated and am only posting new auctions as I feel like it.
posted on June 8, 2002 03:01:59 AM
Announcement board at ebay mentioned trouble at hotmail., i emailed seller as i never recieved an eoa.finally.emailed her from my other acct & from the checkout..
recieved note today that she sent me eoa on the 5th just came in late on the 7th..
really can foul things up glad i kept on it..or she may have thought i was a deadbeat
posted on June 8, 2002 04:39:47 AM
It continues to amaze me why people bid on something and never follow through...Why bid?...Anyway, I never leave negative feedback because I have over 300 positives and no negs and want to keep it that way, and I know one jerk would give me a neg just to pi** me off...I go through the Ebay hupla and hope it scares them into paying, and if not I forget it...
posted on June 8, 2002 05:53:02 AM
I don't have aol, but the seller/bidder might.
That's why I send an eoa through my launcher's web site, a 3-day reminder from ebay, and one from my own e-mail. As another attempt, I sometimes go through "ask seller a question" or the similar function that allows you to contact another ebayer. I forget what that is called.
I do not rush to give a neg just in case of computer failure on their part. For example: after we signed up with Roadrunner, they gave me many cardiacs with sudden and frequent down times. If my hubby wasn't a computer whiz, we would have been late to pay and late to send eoa's.
Even so, there is an increase in the number of people who simply do not see the need to communicate, period. I don't expect them to be chatty, but I since I keep them up to date on what I'm doing, I would like them to keep me up to date. I always give them the benefit of the doubt and remain friendly.
This new stress plus the Priority Mail rate increase is causing me to slow my sales and reconsider how and what to sell. I will definitely restrict it to what I know sells well. You would think the USPS would be enjoying the increase in $ from eBay sales? My P.O. doesn't like eBayers, but puts a friendly face on it. I discovered a local UPS counter recently. Ah, well, that's in another thread!
I only leave a neg after I'm sure I'm being stiffed and it's not something else. I guess I'm hoping that if my PC dies or I accidently delete my e-mails (it happened once), the buyer/seller will give me a last chance to make it right. Do they call that Serendipity?
posted on June 8, 2002 05:59:38 AM
USPS has good reasons why not to like ebay sellers-lots of breakage and squabbles between buyer and seller.
usps is overloaded with claims and reports of fraud.
not to mention using their supply for non usps priority shipping-tape,boxes,labels
posted on June 8, 2002 07:48:17 AM
I too have had a lot more dead beats, 9 in the last couple of weeks. I mostly sell craft books, and several of the non-payers were old customers, 2 of whom are now non-registered with several recent negs, but a lot of positive feedbacks. It really makes me wonder what happened, the items were mostly under $5.
posted on June 8, 2002 08:04:14 AM
ME TOO ... have had more than my fair share of deadbeat bidders over the past month and most items were not expensive at all !!
Most in a month after 3 years of selling on ebay
The buyers won't even return my many emails or ebays reminder to pay seller!
A couple did finally send payment way late but never emailed me .. at least I still had the item and didn't go ahead and relist right away
posted on June 8, 2002 08:14:03 AM
I had one lady who never sent any kind of responce after 3 weeks I got a email from her family saying she was in the hospital very ill. I sent her my prayers and told them I would consider the transaction canceled no Neg Nuteral or any thing. That her case was understandable.
posted on June 8, 2002 08:16:52 AM
Maybe what we should do is report most of these deadbeats to the 3 major credit reporting agencys. these auctions are supposed to be legal binding contracts.
posted on June 8, 2002 08:44:25 AM
wwtraders1,
I like your idea about reporting deadbeats to the credit reporting companies. Maybe someone can come up with a good procedure to do that.
posted on June 8, 2002 04:13:40 PM
I don't think it is just eBay. I sell on a niche site too and the dead beats are on the rise there too. I sell equestrian equipment which has been pretty much dead beat proof until this year. Now I get all kinds of stories about how the horse threw them and they were in the hospital for weeks, etc. and still no payment arrives.
posted on June 8, 2002 05:07:54 PM
HOW MANY NON PAYING AUCTIONS DOES A ?BUYER. HAVE TO GET BEFORE HE IS NARUED AND HOW MANY DAYS DOES IT TAKE FOR E BAY TO MAKE IT PUBLIC? NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER?
posted on June 8, 2002 06:35:29 PM
A bidder who gets three FVF reports from three different sellers will be NARUd. The NPB letter doesn't hurt the buyer, when ebay has to refund fees, that does it, but it can't be three auctions from one seller, it has to be three different sellers.
Negative feedback when it hits -4 can be NARUd also, but most deadbeats have enough positives to offset this happening.
posted on June 8, 2002 07:14:21 PM
AH,,,,,,,,, BUMMER AND REALLY NOT THAT IT REALLY MATTERS TO THE SOB. HE BID UP NINE ONLY FOR RETALATORY REASONS. AN OFF E BAY DEAL DIDN'T MAKE HIM HAPPY SO,,,,,,,,,,,,,,HE MADE THAT NAME UP JUST TO BID AND NOT PAY. I WENT THROUGH ALL THAT E BAY FILING FOR CRAP??????? HE WILL NEVER BID UNDER THAT NAME AGAIN. HE HAD NO PLANS TO. IT TAKES 3 PEOPLE,,,,,,,,,THANKS. I WISH THE SOB WAS A SELLER,,,,,,,,,,,,,HAHAHHAHAHAH. NEG!!!!!!!!!!! IN THE END HE DID COST ME MONEY TOO,,,,,,,,,WHEN I RELISTED,,,,,,,,LOW, LOW BIDS. HE SPOILED THE SALES. WHAT AN A$$HOLE. THANKS FOR THE INFO. KEPT LOOKING FOR THE NARU. NOW,,,,,,,,I REST IN PEACE. THANKS. THAT A/H WANTED ROUND TRIP POSTAGE RETURNED FOR A PERFECTLY GOOD DRUG SCALE HE BOUGHT. USED IT AND THEN WANTED HIS MONEY BACK. I GAVE PURCHASE BUT NOT POSTAGE. THAT A/H COULD HAVE DRIVEN HERE, POSTAGE IS NOT MY PROBLEM. CAREFUL OUT THERE. THERE ARE SOME REAL WEIRDOS OUT THERE.
