coyote0
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posted on September 15, 2000 06:24:09 AM
Do you periodically get the messages from eBay that tells you everything is up to date and current as of ...
It then lists your active auctions and just below them is the following message:
"Keep in mind that you are committing to selling these items at eBay.Refusing to sell these items to the high bidder at the end of your auction will cause you to lose your registered status." What the heck is that supposed to mean? Why would I not sell to the highest bidder especially since I've sold to the highest bidder 100's of times before! I think the whole PayPal thing has me cranky this morning and I'm just getting picky, but my gosh this whole online auction business is starting to get on my nerves and I don't like being threatened!
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mballai
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posted on September 15, 2000 06:28:23 AM
Elsewhere they say you aren't obligated to do so (like I would run an auction not to sell something). Go figure.
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pickersangel
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posted on September 15, 2000 06:36:09 AM
It's a form letter, it says the same thing on each and every letter that each and every user gets. YOU may not renege on a transaction, but just check out the Trust & Safety discussion boards on Ebay. A lot of sellers do. Don't take it personally.
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toolhound
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posted on September 15, 2000 06:43:17 AM
I have not got the messages from eBay that tells you everything is up to date and current as of.. in close to a year and when i ask them they do not know why. So i guess the information in them does not apply to me.
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godzillatemple
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posted on September 15, 2000 06:49:14 AM
I don't mind that notice. I just can't understand why BIDDERS don't get a similar notice whenever they receive a bid confirmation. You know, something like:
"Keep in mind that you are committing to pay for this item if you are the winning high bidder. Refusing to pay for this item if you are the winning high bidder at the end of your auction will cause you to lose your registered status."
Seems simple enough....
Barry
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The opinions expressed above are for comparison purposes only. Your mileage may vary....
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RB
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posted on September 15, 2000 06:56:58 AM
I believe that eBay could have, and should have chosen different words to say the same thing ...
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coyote0
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posted on September 15, 2000 07:01:41 AM
For bidders it would have to say, "Please pay for the items you bid on. If you don't we're going to give a warning and if you don't pay again we're going to give you another warning, and if you don't pay again we're going to give you another warning, and if you don't pay again, we're going to finally do something about it, but of course you always have the right to appeal, so we will probably just give you another warning."
;-[
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figmente
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posted on September 15, 2000 07:34:25 AM
What's odd about that notice to sellers is that although bidders actually can be naru'ed for failing to complete transactions under ebay's system for crediting fvf there is no similiar reporting mechanism and therefore no such consequence for sellers who back out.
I once inquired specifically to ebay on this in reference to a reneging seller, ebay was not interested ... the only bidder recourse for bidder on seller's reneg is to post feedback complaint.
This happens all the time with sellers who post with insignificant opening and no reserve but then refuse to complete deal for less than expected.
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huskylover
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posted on September 15, 2000 07:40:12 AM
Coyote0 - I love your post!!! I currently have 3 bidders who will not even have the
decency to respond to my notification (let alone ever send a payment). One of them currently has 4 non-paying bidders notices in a row under feedback but they are still active and out there bidding! AAARRRGGGHH!
Best of all, I have to wait 10 days to file a non-paying bidder notice, then wait ANOTHER
10 days to file for my refund plus I'm still
out the listing fee. I firmly believe anyone who sells or buys on Ebay should have to post a credit card or bond of some sort that would hold money in escrow for this sort of thing. If seller doesnt send merchandise, the money goes to the buyer and
if buyer doesnt follow through, the money goes to the seller. What do you think?? As a seller (oops - dont tell PayPal!!!!), and a buyer I would have no objections.
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jfpnatl
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posted on September 15, 2000 07:42:35 AM
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"I don't mind that notice. I just can't understand why BIDDERS don't get a similar notice whenever they receive a bid confirmation. You know, something like: "
"Keep in mind that you are committing to pay for this item if you are the winning high bidder. Refusing to pay for this item if you are the winning high bidder at the end of your auction will cause you to lose your registered status."
Well Put!! COTOTE 0
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pickersangel
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posted on September 15, 2000 08:08:01 AM
Actually, I think that bidders get a warning like that every time they place a bid. There are mechanisms for reporting sellers--fraud and insurance claims, as well as emails to Safe Harbor with the subject "NON-PERFORMING SELLER". Admittedly, the latter is underpublicized and both avenues are agonizingly slow in having any effect, since there isn't a set limit for seller complaints that correlates to the "4 strikes and your out" rules regarding NPB's. IMO, there should be a "4 strikes" rule for sellers relative to non-performance. How could anyone justify completing 4 seperate auctions and then refusing to sell each time?
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macandjan
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posted on September 15, 2000 08:19:50 AM
[ edited by macandjan on Dec 3, 2000 08:48 PM ]
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figmente
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posted on September 15, 2000 12:52:22 PM
re. non-performing seller - "fraud and insurance claims" would not apply until seller has accepted payment. It makes sense that SafeHarbor should accept such complaints... however perhaps ebaY is much less interested than with NPB as it doesn't hurt their income.
(drop the polite "perhaps"
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argh
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posted on September 17, 2000 06:57:21 AM
Odd coincidence. Yesterday was the first time I noticed that polite threat from eBay. It was on all of the EOA's eBay sent me.
I checked..found an EOA eBay sent me as a buyer. No such threat. There was the blurb about getting in touch:
*The buyer and seller should contact each other within three business days to complete the sale. Not getting in touch leaves the contract in limbo and can earn you negative feedback. If you have trouble, though, just visit http:yadayadayada.
It had nothing about going through with the deal.
I also checked an eBay Bid Notice. It explains a lot:
"*If you placed this bid by mistake, here's what to do:
Check out the information on retracting your bid, which can occasionally be done. You'll find this among the services listed in the Buyers section.
Best of luck in your bidding--trade on!"
Ah, wonderful. Nothing about refusing to buy the item after you bid on it, but they do tell ya how to squirrel out of a bid. Wonder why sellers think eBay is so pro-buyer and anti-seller...maybe because they are??
Yeah, the Daily Status e-mails...have gotten a couple in the last week. How nostalgic! At first I didn't even recognize it. It's been at least a year since I've seen one, and I just assumed they had long since discontinued them.
Argh
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dana71
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posted on September 17, 2000 08:37:00 AM
Argh.......Are Daily status Emails useful now? I also just rec'd 2 after none since last Feb.....I had previous ones in an Outlook folder, but if there is no good use for them, I'd like to delete ALL. Thanks for answering. Dana71
Goingslow
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argh
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posted on September 17, 2000 05:20:02 PM
Dana71: Are the Daily Status reports useful?
Not to me. Never were, and I have always deleted them. I just thought it was funny that they started showing up again, especially now since it routinely takes three days to get an EOA from them. I sure can't think of any reason you'd want to save them.
Argh
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