posted on February 19, 2001 09:49:27 PM new
DRAT!We lost you.I knew when you said you were getting ready to go,And didnt know where
But would go(something like that)DRAT!
You gonna visit us here at AW? DRAT!
I like your web site.DRAT!DRAT!DRAT!DRAT!
posted on February 19, 2001 10:54:48 PM new
Will there be another thread? Like ones in the past, will this one pass away, but only to form another??? (I hope! I hope!) I am not done catching up on all this stuff...in the past couple of days, I have gotten up to page 20...oh, it is so long. But I am sure there is more to learn! Please say yes, VeryModern!
I was playing catch-up today because I hadn't read this thread for 2 days. I am sorry to find that you are not going to post on this subject anymore.
While I haven't posted much to it I have read with great interest and find that you have helped many see themselves or maybe I should say understand themselves better. Sometimes I think we don't realize what is going on when we are in the middle of the situation and yoru pointing this out only made people say, "Oh yeah! That's me!"
I won't pretend to say I understood all of it but I did find it very interesting and acknowledge the time and effort you spent on each one.
I hope the reason you are stopping is not because of something someone said because there must be a 100 more like me that read and didn't post.
posted on February 21, 2001 02:04:58 PM newVM
Say it aint so!
I have just spent hours totally absorbed in this thread. You are truly amazing! (not tomention your gifted writing abilities!) I hope you will change your mind and come back (meant as flattery with the greatest of respect for your decision)!
Thank you for giving so much of yourself!
posted on February 21, 2001 03:24:44 PM new
Thanks all for the kind words
I wanna write, I reeeeeally wanna write, I would write all day and all night, but real life is rattling my cage.
Some of you know that I am primarily a Yahoo seller and during the time frame they began charging fees, which changes the landscape dramatically as only another Yahoo seller can understand.
Anyway - I have been hanging here like a loose tooth waiting for it all to shake out so that I could repackage and reposition, and one thing I learned is that I WAY prefer astrology to auctions, and so some hundreds of posts back, I contacted several astrology sites, hoping that I could do "this" instead of "that".
What I learned is that what they want is celebrity profiling (like write about Earnhardt's death after the fact, or yet another FLUFFY Julia Roberts piece), and I just can't see it, because it lacks heart and depth, and is just too gross for me to consider, and so big dilemma.
I came back to write more here ... "do what you love" and all that, but the VOID where the auction income used to be is very apparent at this point and so I have got to get real.
I am going back to my day job, but will "play" my space junk astrology like a street musician.
In my spare time. For my pleasure, and the pleasure of anyone who stops to listen. And for tips when they are offered.
I have loved writing on this thread, and I am wholly proud of it.
I am also hoping that given the current climate someone does not come and corrupt what we have made here, and I respectfully ask that they refrain. VeryModern Space Junk
posted on February 22, 2001 08:26:04 PM new
I would actually like to respond to your detractors. VeryModern has predicted with 100 per cent accuracy my and my friends'futures with shocking results. let it not be said Very is not Very real. I have become a true believer when i wasn't . and an eternal devotee of VeryModern. I will always sing your praises Very!
posted on February 22, 2001 09:44:49 PM new
VeryModern: Sorry to hear that life has you tumbling about. Though...hehe...you should have seen it coming! I am sure that doesn't make it much easier.
posted on February 23, 2001 12:01:10 AM new
Hello, Very Modern
Your posts and threads here on AW have entertained my soul many times. You should really consider a little self promotion on the web. By the praise you garner here on the AW boards, it is apparent people really enjoy what you have to say! I am confident that you could take this to the next degree. Perhaps, you offer a free copy of the winning bidder's astrology chart in your auction listing. Once they are under the spell of your devilish charm! I am confident they will want you to read it for them, for a small fee of course! Then you will most likely finding yourself doing what you love for $$$$!!!
posted on February 23, 2001 06:16:37 AM new
PingPongBall - thank you.
Kimbonovitvh - I have no complaints about my life, I never do.
kcpick4u - thanks for the innovative idea, I appreciate it. I also like the notion of devilish charm
I had a brilliant brainstorm yesterday, or at least I thought I did, so this dog may still hunt. I was also able to toss some auctions up and have sales result, so that is
working out too.
Meanwhile, I am dealing astro cards high and low and near and far, with an eye on the horizon, looking for a sign and all that.
I am full of hope. VeryModern Space Junk
posted on February 24, 2001 11:59:51 AM new
I have just been informed that PingPongBall (posting above) is my life long best friend B, so hiya PPB, and thanks for stopping in.
I am so flattered I'm blushing , come back and see us again soon! VeryModern Space Junk
posted on February 25, 2001 06:39:47 AM new
Muriel - I think that you are afraid, based on history, but I don't think that your job is in jeopardy.
You will probably see some consolidation at work, belt tightening, but you will be in because of this, not out for a few reasons.
First, you have innate understanding of conservation, you are excellent at your job, but also because your presence is a joy to people which makes you hot property in lean times.
Recession?
I want to be standing next to someone who has a joke on offer. That would be you, and most people feel like me and so there you go. You are the last one to go because no one wants to be left with you gone
What's coming up?
Struggle that you know well... Home and family, how to balance, and intensified.
The current drama in your house will not resolve itself for a year or so. It will get worse, and then get better.
I believe I have read that your daughter (and her family?) is living in your home, and so you are caught being both generous and ultra responsible (major parent you are) and wanting to do the right thing. Thing is even if she moves tomorrow, one way or the other in one form or the other, there is going to be a burden to you - you will have to wait it out until she becomes NOT your dependent again. You are almost going to have to "wean" her and you know, that is not a fast process, but it is one with a beginning middle and an end, so keep that in mind.
In fact, as I am thinking about it.... your best tack may be to see this as your responsibility and accept it as opposed to wishin' and hopin' it would all go away. Embrace the responsibility I mean.
Fact is, that you are very good at doing your "job" and so if you make this your job, you will excel and I am betting that the situation languishes until you do.
It needs a professional and no you should not have to do it, but if you don't who will? Of course you can throw them all out, but I betcha that you won't and even if you did, you would be writing a check 3 days later...
See what I mean?
Recognize that she has latched on (again) and PLAN how you will ease her out of her dependency and something very good can come of the situation as opposed to a bunch of directionless stress and tension and resentment.
Make some rules, make some deadlines, be kind about it (you are) and a year out two very valuable things will have been constructed.
What?
Your daughter will have a strong base, but more importantly, you will. T Saturn is in you 4th house, home the base of everything and this is the time for you to define and construct the base which will hold you (and your family) up for the next 28 years. IOW time to define what kind of parent you want to be. (again, or consider it a tweak)
Now back to the career, Saturn (work) through the 4th (home) strongly suggests work at home and so it is strongly possible start to build a home based business. Now if you are ebay'in that is one thing, but if you have been at this awhile (more than a year) then I am referring to something else. For example, the house you wanted to buy... See if you bought it and RENTED it or the house you are in, this would qualify as "building the base" of what would support you in the future and you know alllll about slow gain. I am suggesting that you are sowing seeds now and they will grow into a bid deal for you.
During this time, there is some burden at home (your daughter) and likely some other WORK but that it is lying foundation for a structure that will bring you increasing return, but where the real top the hill is 14 years out. IOW - the full effect of the effort put into your daughter this years will not be wholly apparent for 14 years and then you will see her "up" there and you can say "I built that" and don't forget how much you like to accomplish and achieve.
If you keep that in your mind, the situation you have at home now instantly becomes less of a "problem" and more of an "opportunity" and this is a better perspective for you, and frankly, you are the mother, so what is good for you will benefit the rest of your crew.
I just re-read this and want to add that I do not think that your daughter will be living with you, right under you feet for a YEAR, but I do think it will take that long to wean her completely, and keep in mind that your are weaning yourself simultaneously.
posted on February 25, 2001 07:02:13 AM newVM - You give me chills! Boy, you are right on the money, as usual!
One more question? A psychic told me once that my husband, who has been with the same company for 27 years, is going to be working for himself eventually. Now that I've read him your predictions for our family, he says "What about me?". Do you have time to do Mark? His birthday is 10/11/53 and he was born at 10:30 a.m. in Toledo, Ohio.
posted on February 25, 2001 09:37:12 AM new
Muriel, the first thing I have to note about your husband's chart is how well it matches up with yours, because it is so obvious.
The first thing is that you have 4 planets in Gemini and he has Jupiter in Gemini making the relationship between your hugely beneficial to both of you. Plain and simple he likes you.
Even if he does not like something you do (which is not likely) he still likes you and so with this kind of allowance - virtual total acceptance and support - you are free to really express yourself, and so this is quite fortunate.
He also benefits - there is nothing like living with some one you like - heck, just try it the other way for awhile and this'll be hugely clear.
The other thing is that your Moon @ 0 Sag is conjunct his ascendent @ 1 Sag and so this means that his physical body provides much comfort - he is your "clan" and the Moon smiles for that.
On his working for himself, I surely can if he wants to, because he is competent, but I am not sure that this would suit him best.
I do not see him being happy working at home. Although he most definitely needs "downtime" for his emotional well being, he thrives out in public in the world.
Saturn (work) is about to enter his 7th house (partner) and on the marriage front (I am assuming a strong marriage because with this much Jupiter action, I can't imagine how it could NOT be) and so it is possible that he finds a partner (could be you, but does not have to be) and starts a business.
Where you have T Saturn in the 4th (home/mommy/roots) and will be expending effort to redefine and work in this area, he will be doing same in the area of partnership / relationship / "we" not "me"
Besides this, just in general, I think he would be happier working WITH someone as a team as opposed to "by himself". Now this does not mean someone breathing down his neck because he has both Venus and Mars in Virgo and so works best alone - but I am talking about a joint venture where he has his specific duties, and the other person has theirs. I feel that a situation like this would suit him best because...
He has lots of Libra that does not like to be alone.
Because he has a Scorpio Moon and so thrives and is infused and inspired with other peoples energy.
Because he has this Virgo and although he can work in a room alone, he is apt to undersell himself and so needs a partner to get the best price for his product / service.
Also because of Virgo - who is best at making someone else look good!
Because he has Jupiter in the 7th house and so like above --- he is pretty much guaranteed to get a GOOD partner
Because he has Saturn in Libra which is and exalted position - more evidence of partnerships being beneficial to him
and last because T Saturn says the time is now
Now off topic - but worth mentioning - please tell him that he is going to have an urge to GO and DO for the next 7 months via T Mars in his 1st house. Enhanced energy level. This is raw male energy and so he can channel it however, but it likes sex, outdoor exercise, or perhaps to argue. He should like this, not otherwise and I guess what I am saying is if there is something that needs DONE he is going to have extra resources at his disposal, so use 'em! Also, if he is thinking about some sort of exercise program, (and it is not usual for him), if he got moving he would find that he is running on premium fuel. Mars loves the 1st house, it's natural home. VeryModern Space Junk
posted on February 25, 2001 09:46:12 AM new
Again, thank you VM!! You are so right about our marriage. We were high school sweethearts and we both knew back then that we were kindred spirits. But me being a typical Gemini had to see "what else was out there". 25 years later, and many mistakes later, we found each other again. It was like coming home. I can't explain it, but we got married six months later. I know that most people won't believe this, but we NEVER fight. (Because he always gives in to me - haha) Seriously, we just don't fight and we are "enmeshed". We go everywhere together, and when he's out of town, I'm a fish out of water. We're each a part of the other. Thanks for the observation!!
posted on February 25, 2001 09:59:58 AM newIt was like coming home
That is your Moon talking.
Yes, you are HOME when in his physical presence, and btw HIS Moon is @28 degrees Scorpio (3 degrees from yours and so it is all there happening together.
posted on February 25, 2001 10:08:07 AM newYour daughter will have a strong base, but more importantly, you will. T Saturn is in you 4th house, home the base of everything and this is the time for you to define and construct the base which will hold you (and your family) up for the next 28 years.
VM, does this mean I'm only going to live for another 28 years?? (Hubby asked) The many faces of Muriel
posted on February 25, 2001 10:45:28 AM new VM, does this mean I'm only going to live for another 28 years?? (Hubby asked)
No! It does not mean that, but great question.
28 years is how long it takes Saturn to transit all the signs, so in your case, it is at the bottom of your chart, the base, the roots and from there it does a slow climb.
14 years it is at the peak - the zenith, the top of your chart, so that is where that number comes from.
Then comes the fall which is not as bad as it sounds.
I think I wrote about this but it might have been another thread....
Saturn through the 10th house (top of the chart) is the height of accomplishment but when the fall begins, the person is ready for it... like "been there, done that" on the success front.
Anyway, the story I told about this was the gal who was the head cheerleader in college. This was her hard work paying off - Saturn through the 10th, but then she got pregnant and so her life shifted and by the time she was not "head cheerleader" anymore, she could have cared less.
Life is smart like that, it does not suck.
So..... Saturn through the 4th is where the seeds are sown. Everyone wants to harvest all the time, but of course that is ridiculous. If people got what they wanted all the time, they would be sorry.
So you are starting something new and your husband is 1/2 way on the climb (7th house).
If it makes it clearer to you Muriel, I also have T Saturn in the 4th right now.
I am working (Saturn) at home (4th house) and restricted (Saturn) because I am caring for my children (4th house).
Also seems that this astrology is starting up and so if I pursue it, the top of the mountain is 14 years out. Not that I will not reap rewards in increments, but it is a slow climb, and this is life so that you are ready when you get there.
Now Saturn is particularly important for YOU because it is chart ruler.
That means it be da boss of you and your good pal.
Plant your seeds carefully, take your time. What you are building now will support you for a long while. A castle with a foundation - that is what you want. VeryModern Space Junk
posted on February 25, 2001 02:13:29 PM new
Yep, I can see it junque, but I can't wear gold.
Italian people look like hell in gold. VeryModern Space Junk
, a parade wave, and a tip of my hat to any and all lurkers and warm and very special thanks to everyone who became part of it.
here, there, and everywhere 
, come back and see us again soon!
The many faces of Muriel
