posted on February 12, 2001 10:05:37 PM new
thank you thank you for that. You are giving me much hope tonight. I do understand about the goat. I watched a RAM climb up a vertical plane once-as an Aries, I should get a clue from that, huh?!?!?
posted on February 13, 2001 05:29:59 AM new
Thanks for the compliment Al!
mimigigi - good point!
Go back to who you were last time you kicked butt and grab some of what she was using (guts, piss and vinegar, perseverance, pure audacity, imagination, whatever) and repeat the procedure.
posted on February 13, 2001 01:41:19 PM new
VeryModern,You said....
[b]Jupiter in Scorpio promises a good death whenever it comes, and these are the kinds of
images to offer her if it comes to this. A highminded death, a fortunate death, a spiritual
death. Death as a journey to new vistas - how could it possibly be anything but?[/b] That is a big load off my mind, right there.I have been around a cancer
death before,It was evil to the person.....
Slow and painful..Drugs had no effect..The person wanted to commit suicide.This was an Aunt of mine,And I wouldnt wish that type of death on anyone.(Taurus)Wanted to go out natural,Until the reality of the pain set in.
By the time my Aunt let the doctor give her
morphin,The morphin took her on out.The level
of pain,and the high doses to lessen the pain.
VeryModern,Keep my planet configuration in mind...If someone ever says to you..."Everyone one I know and loved has died or dying".
This may be my job,....I have always been an
Intercessor,Even for strangers.
Its a big job and someone has to do it.
posted on February 13, 2001 02:00:05 PM new
well junque - all that Scorpio.
You are right, someone has to do it. Do know that many people are very very grateful for people like you.
The dying, but also the living. Who but an angel could work in a hospice, and what would we do if nobody could, or would?
The part about the good death is a guarantee with Jupiter in Scorpio and I hope you get the part about your Venus conjunct her Jupiter. Your whole stellium is conjunct her Jupiter for that matter. If anyone can ease her through death or healing - it would be you.
I am thinking of both of you.
Went to sleep that way, and woke up same.
Thanks for posting.
On last thing...
On pain control - just let her know it is okay to be painless. As opposed to fighting and enduring. Some people feel they need to be tough.
Why?
Pain is not helpful.
I have heard people assert that the body does a better job healing when it is free from pain and this makes sense. Enduring pain takes energy.....
posted on February 13, 2001 02:03:01 PM new
I just wanted to add...
She can tell her doctor "I don't want to feel any pain..." and I bet he/she would make that happen.
posted on February 13, 2001 02:36:06 PM new
Hi Silk - you are quite correct to be concerned, he is a double Leo and Leo rules the heart. He is most definitely at risk.. Forget your idea of control issues - he needs a jolt before he gets a jolt.
What is his problem, besides FIXED? He thinks he is going to dodge this bullet?
He is not.
You are right.
Has anyone told him point blank that he is going to have a heart attack and sometimes the first sign is sudden death?
Silk Moth - there is no judicious way to say this....
T Uranus (sudden) is squaring his Pluto (death) Sun (Life force) in Leo (rules the heart).
When?
NOW.
He needs to turn on a dime or the universe will do it for him.
How?
Heart attack.
Most likely scenario?
Heart trouble shows itself this year (next few months) - [b]and you want to find it, not have it find him[b]
He survives and then T Saturn in Gemini squares his Venus and this is the time his pleasure is curtailed...
Saturn (restricted) in Gemini (variety) sq Venus (pleasure) in Virgo (DIET!)
Since he is a stubborn ass, what I would do is take him to the doc. Just make the appointment.
Get him checked out Silk Moth. You really don't want to take a chance waiting for an event.
He has a double whammy here.
Besides the Uranus transit to his Sun Pluto - it is entering his 8th house (death / transformation) which it rules.
IOW he is primed for sudden death or sudden transformation, and this could come via surgery another 8th house thing, and that is most likely because his body is already screwed...
What I mean is that it is too late to just tweak the diet.
posted on February 13, 2001 02:50:50 PM new
(My) Pisces moon strikes again... intuition was right on the money and it was right, right NOW.
I am calling the doctor today. He's been feeling like warmed-over baby poop for weeks and I KNEW the symptoms were showing problems with his circulation.
Thank you thank you thank you for doing this for me fast!
posted on February 13, 2001 02:59:02 PM new
... and to the air signs - Mars is leaving Scorpio as I type, and the Moon will leave next day or so and this month of blood and guts and death and transformation will wrap up...
posted on February 13, 2001 03:44:56 PM new
Silk Moth, I did not think that at all.
You did not even mention Neptune tied up with your ascendent and your Jupiter trine
Anyway, I just had to post back because what you are trying to do here (and on the other thread) is save your husband's life with love and that needs no apology
I am so excited to have something positive to hang onto now - something more than this vague cloud of worry that "something's not right." Something to DO!
The nurse practitioner is supposed to call me back later this evening.
posted on February 13, 2001 04:57:49 PM new
Good deal Silk Moth.
The doc'll take one look at family history, weight, eating habits and your husband's situation will be taken very seriously.
Since you are studying...
Jupiter trine Leo = Big heart
It also = Enlarged heart.
(this is in your husband's chart - plus in the 1st house (the body))..
Bottom line, heart at risk is as impossible to miss in his chart as it is to miss in his life, but he will be okay, and then the doc can be the authority figure (Saturn) who restricts his diet.
When that happens, he wins, you win and you son does too - which I believe is your goal per the other thread
See -- you rock!
Let us know.
This is a link to YO JOE / dcj's poem from page 7 of this thread.
My husband futzed and then had it professionally printed, matted and framed as promised.
posted on February 17, 2001 08:59:26 AM new
Morning VeryModern.A beautiful day and a
little cold here.I was surprized to see this thread disappear.Where did everyone go?
I read something at the dnf this morning,
Billionairs cant keep it up! That should be the cry of sellers on ebay.
ebay does have its problems during mercury
RX.And they make all their changes when
Mercury is RX.You think they would learn.
My friend Ms.Penny is in good spirits,
Relatives coming in March and her boyfriend
will be home about the same time.
Penny and I talked at great lenghth about carrying baggage with an illness.You cant.
We all have something that stays with us from the past,No matter how bad a past
Problem,Or how evil someone has been towards
us...It has to go.....as if it never happened. When someone becomes ill and in the back of their mind they are still mad at someone,The hate and disappointment feeds the
illness as in cancer or some other disease.
Ms Penny,Whom Ive never seen really mad at anyone,Has been carrying something with her from the past.Last night she let it go,As we talked by phone.....Dont mind me..I do ramble
on.
posted on February 17, 2001 11:31:10 AM new
Hiya Junque - very glad to hear you and Penny are hanging in and doing what friends do. Most definitely agree with you - to dump all the dead weight you can if you are ill.
If you are well, dump it anyway, it helps you stay that way!
I don't know where everyone is.
Perhaps they are playing outside in celebration of the Sagittarius Moon and Mars.
posted on February 17, 2001 12:49:50 PM new
That did it therp.
Now I am gonna write.
The problem is that each time I think I will start, a tangent hits me and if I stray to far, I will have xardon on my butt.
You know.
The police.
Here is a little bit and more is coming tonight.
You know how the Double Aquarius picked up the Taurus?
I was wondering how she was going to do it.
This is another reason I readily agreed to chat up the other two. I was highly curious to see her MO, because in a year of running around this was the first time she saw someone she felt she must have.
I planned to eavesdrop, but I did not have to.
She walked right up to him and she started singing.
She sings awful bad too, just like I do but she starts singing this chicken song.
It was her opening line.
"Wanna hear a song about a chicken?"
Who could say no?
"BOCK, BOCK, BOCK, I'M A CHICKEN!!!" she sings, and she has her thumbs tucked in her underarms and is flappin' her wings, and she sings some more - "CHICK, CHICK, CHICK, CHICK, CHICKEN!"
Okay, really it was worth getting married for 2 weeks just to be there that night.
posted on February 17, 2001 01:24:35 PM new
Even though your metaphor conjures up not entirely unpleasant images, I am most assuredly not opposed to your tangential meanderings, VM. Truth be told, I'm most fond of your writing when it does stray off topic.....as are we all, I suspect.
....all of which reminds me of a particularly annoying experience I endured on Wednesday. While sitting in my car I was approached by a guy with a small boy in tow. The kid was about 5 and had a Pokemon bookbag on his back. When they were a few feet from my door I heard the man say to the boy, "If you don't start doing better in school, that man is going to come and arrest you". The man looked at me and said. "Isn't that right, officer?" I told the man, "No, that's not right!" I asked him if I could talk to the boy. He said it was OK. I explained that the cops don't arrest little kids who do badly in school. I asked his name and told him mine. I told him about my boy and we talked a bit about Pokemon. We shook hands. I hate it when parents make me the boogeyman.
posted on February 17, 2001 02:06:02 PM new
Hi VM!
junquemamaI am so sorry about your friend!
Silkmoth You and hubby are in my prayers!! That goes double for junquemama and her friend.
Al I want one of those!! Where can I get one?
Therp Hi, hows it going?
VM Care if I bother you for a few more answers and insight?
I have been talking with a neighbor about going into business together. She has owned her own business most of her life and has a lot of business knowlege and experience, but has fell on very hard times recently and has lost everything due to a divorce. When moving here her ex stole everything of value (personal and tangable) from her out of a U-Haul. He has turned her daughter against her and she has chosen to stay with her dad instead of with my friend. She has an 8 year old son who is with her. Her car broke down in another state. She was left penniless and on top of everything else, she suffers from M.S. She is understandably very angry at him and quite depressed.
I have told her that she really has to forgive her ex for what has happened in order to move forward with her life. When I say forgive I am not saying that she tell him it is okay or forget what he did but unless she can forgive him she can't move forward because that is all she thinks about. I understand that the wounds are still somewhat fresh and it will be hard to forgive but by not forgiving him, he is still hurting her and controling her and it makes it impossible for her to move on with her life because she is so concentrated on him and what he has done. I feel like she thinks I am saying to her, "just get over it and forgive him and move on" and this seems pretty cold hearted since I have not experienced what she has gone through.
However, I think in order to focus on any potential business ideas and endevors she has to have a clear mind (if not heart) I don't think one can necessarily focus on revenge, hate and self-pity and focus on success.
I am also bringing to the table my share of problems, I have been very depressed due to some big financial problems. I am having a hard time keeping food on the table, and the heat and lights on.
I guess what I am asking is, do you think a business partnership can work out for us? I am at a point where I am ready to about anything (I say this with my whip in hand.). There are days though, when I just cannot pull my butt out of bed though and I sit around feeling sorry for my self. I hate it when I do this!!
I don't have her birth info here with me, I know she is also a Gemini. She does not have her birth time because her birth certificate was lost in a fire.
If I am being a pain in the butt with all these questions, let me know. I feel like I should be paying you for all this information you have so generously given to me!
have a nice weekend!
edited for bad grammar! du
[ edited by cmbtboots on Feb 17, 2001 02:11 PM ]
posted on February 17, 2001 02:11:54 PM new
So I am talking to Shack Man and this other guy and I am borrrrrrred to tears.
Shack Man was in hot pursuit of me, but I had no, No NO idea of this because he has a Pisces Mars, where Mars is how you get what you want.
I have wrote about it a little bit somewhere in the thread, but Mars in Pisces is very very non-aggressive and hard to focus and this goes both ways.
Hard for the Pisces Mars to focus on the target, also hard for the target to see Mars coming. It is like having a war, or maybe not, or maybe this is.
If I had been paying attention and I was not - I MAY have had a slight inkling... "is this guy interested in me?" - but who knows for sure? Another gal, with more awareness of the nebulous, which I distinctly lacked at the time, might have felt what was going on, because he wasn't really talking to me.
This is not Mars in Gemini chatting me up, or in Sag - boasting about their travels. It is far more advanced really - so advanced it does not work in the real world all that well in many ways. Very "hologram" sex if anyone knows what I mean. Steeped in fantasy.
So he is interested in me, but the question is "why?"
I don't respond to him, so why?
Reason was his Aquarius Moon.
Moon in a man's chart shows what they are drawn to emotionally, and it is the Moon who dispatches Mars to kill it and bring it home and this is what was happening.
Well, someone please clue in the cluefree Italian gal in the blue tights looking around for the exit door, and while you are at - best explain to Shack that I am not an Aquarian....
Aquarian? No.
Uranus transit over the ascendent (how you present)? Yes.
Ut-oh.
If someone would have told me that I was going to wind up married to this guy at the time, I would have thought that was funnier than the Chicken Song and cheered right up.
As it was, I gave him my phone number as an escape mechanism and we left the bar.
posted on February 17, 2001 02:20:57 PM new
I just re-read and see I was not clear. Damned Pisces Mars, see how it is?
What was he doing?
He was breathing on me.
He was whispering.
I thought he touched my leg, or did he, or was it my imagination?
He was merging and the tide was coming on and moving back out and all the while I am LITERALLY wondering if he was retarded in someway because he was just not capable of holding a "polite chit chat while my friend picks up yours" type conversation.
Later, much later, I would learn to like this quite a bit
