posted on January 22, 2001 10:19:41 AM new
okay dcj.. pity her then, but it is true.
Taurus does not move until MOO-ved.
They claim they want all this peace and tranquility but guess who they go for - time and time again?
The person who is going to most disturb them.
Okay - so picture this bull in field.. eating , eating, eating, sun on his back - feeeeeeling gooooooooood.
The last thing this fella wants is some tasty dish to parade by because this will interrupt the meal, and after all.. a Taurus likes things the way they are.
Even when things a awwwwful, Taurus likes things the way they are.
There may be a girl cow 10 feet away and he could go graze next to her in peace, but does he bother?
No.
Okay - so here comes this tasty dish shaking and what not flaunting around waving red all over so why doesn't the bull just ignore?
A - he cannot. He becomes drunk with desire. He must posses this object of beauty. Seems he wants to be disturbed after all. This is the only thing that moooooves him.
Anyway - plsmith is not normal Taurus, she is abnormal Taurus.
posted on January 22, 2001 11:15:15 AM new
Okay - Scorpio gal, on your SO - I do not see anything to indicate a life cut short.
SO is a a Scorpio rising and I think this is probably an obsession very similar to the one you have had for all these years around astrology. Something gets stuck in a craw and then everything everywhere that you see smell sense perceive provides more evidence that the obsessive concern is real.
See, to a Scorpio *nothing* means nothing and *everything* means something. On it's face, this is true enough BUT discerning just what something means is tricky at times and too often the Scorpio uses everything at their disposal to throw gas on their pet fire.
Why?
Because it makes it more intense and intensity is what Scorpio thrives on.
The other reason for SO's concern is Sun, Saturn, Mercury and Venus in Virgo.. and uh, well, uh... Virgo is a WORRY machine, and their number one thing is HEALTH - so there you go.
The info for SO is worry is a waste of energy. It is a huge sink - not that I think SO doesn't know this.
SO has terrific healing ability (The Viorgo and Scorpio mix - I wrote about this before).
If or when there is illness there is also major resources to tap to regenerate the body.
The real deal here is that the WORRY is more likely to be the death of SO than anything from the outside against which a defense can be launched. The army available here is well armed and dangerous, ya know? Invade at your own risk.
How did you wind up together?
Well it is a great match.
You are peas in a pod in many ways. Both powerful, both eschew commitment, but both have a need to procreate (SCORPIO), exchange energy, and mix resources.
I would have to say that the reason everything happened the way it did was because you both got lucky. I mean it.
SO is progressive, independent, intelligence and passionate. This you respect.
What's the problem?
There is no problem.
Your rising signs are only 2 degrees apart btw. Out of 360 degrees available this is.
This means that as T Uranus goes into your 4th house (home) is goes in SO's also.
Shake up on the home front.
This is imminent, and as good for SO as it is for you.
posted on January 22, 2001 01:31:39 PM newjunque said:
There may be a power play,The child may try to be an adult and you the child.One thing for sure,They never revert back to being a kid.They do have a quick temper,More so out of frustration of being a kid and reminded they are a kid.An old man trying to get out.Some may be interested in astrology, as it is an understanding of their confussed state.Under that temper is probley the biggest softie to love.They usually love their Mamas.Let him grow up early.Let him get that part-time job,He will be the hard worker and loveing pay day.And they are very happy to be an only child. Anything sound familiar?
LOL! Pretty much all of this sounds familiar! He has never ever been "a little kid"...he came from the womb intense, and it hasn't changed at all. Temper, absolutely - and the most loving child when he chooses to be. And he was far happier when he was the only child - his problems didn't really begin until his sister came along. He loves her, don't get me wrong about that, but he sure misses having the spotlight only on him. He seems to be a master manipulator as well - something that will serve him well in the business world someday, but is hellish to live with has his parent!
Thanks everybody for the insight. We will continue to go one day at a time here, and watch for ways to make the path easier on all of us while he attempts to acheive what he is reaching for.
posted on January 22, 2001 02:30:38 PM new
This is for nobs.
First thing did is move your birth time BACK 3 minutes based on your husbands chart. I just want to note this and I would suggest if you ever take your data to another astrologer you report it this way yourself (11.27) because I have good reason to believe that this is a correct time over 5 minutes in the other direction.
For the record, this is not what I do (called rectification - when an astrologer determines birth time based on events) but you said your birth time was within 5 minutes and by moving it 3 minutes - it jibed with your husbands in a way that I know is common. Namely, that people who have Moon and Jupiter conjunct in their chart commonly team up with people who have Jupiter conjunct the ascendent.
For the record --- this little tidbit comes from Stephen Arroyo's book "Jupiter" and my own observation supports his.
nobs - you have Jupiter in Capricorn conjunct Capricorn ascendent.
Your husband has Moon Jupiter conjunct in Gemini
okay nobs is a Scorpio and no doubt can relate to attributes assigned to the sign, but if you read Capricorn, you will find the qualities given to this sign resonate as well. Besides a Capricorn rising your Sun is in the 10th house (Capricorn). You no doubt look like the boss when you come into a room. People (unless they are wholly stupid or foolish) know instinctively not to mess around with you.
Say you are in a store...
Poor service?
Major mistake.
You will go right up the chain of command in 2 seconds. You have paid some dues and by God, you are going to be respected or someone is going to get fired You know how it should be done and are fairly insulted when people are not excellent.
You can do 10 times as much with 1/4 of what people have on hand, and just look at 'em!
You exude credibility and class and you are aging well. Payback for the tough childhood dealt Cap rising. By now you have earned every blessing - at this time in your life your focus should be on pleasure and be sure and note how far you have come.
In fact, this is a sorry thing that happens with Capricorn. They work so hard and achieve so much but virtually never turn around and look at how far they have come. You especially (because of forward looking Jupiter on the ascendent) always have your eye on the horizon, but now and then you really must look back and see how far you have traveled because it is awe inspiring.
On the major move (Are you talking about your HOME?) - I don't really see anything that is compelling for that to occur right now. Not that there is any reason you cannot, or should not if you want to. Your husband has a thing for changing houses or changing the house around and so he can go for that at any time, but as far as something like Scorpio gal is looking at where the home WILL be disrupted it - I don't see that.
On your health - I do see something shaping up. There is a possibility of a problem but it is just as possible that you opt to revolutionize your health habits for one of about 1000 reasons I could imagine.
This is the astrology of this.
T Uranus is transiting your Sun Mercury conjunction in Scorpio. (Sun = heart btw and Mercury is the lungs).
Uranus brings sudden unexpected change and since I know you have been reading the thread (thank you, it saves me being repetitive) the stage for this is the 6th house - health and diet, also your every day routines and habits.
Now this is not to scare you - this is to help you understand.
It is NOT personal to you - it is to describe the energies. (IOW you are not dying, so forget about it)
Scenario 1..
you have a heart attack and this causes you to radically alter your health habits
just as easy = scenario 2
an astrologer mentions "heart attack" in passing and you spontaneously change your health habits
I am not really trying to joke - I just don't know another way to explain this, and since I have to type I am limited to the grossest way possible to convey the information.
As an aside - since Mercury (rules siblings) is involved, you could also have a bro/sis get sick and this get your attention.
6th house - Virgo stuff - heath, your everyday duty, your routines...
There is most definitely going to be changes on this front.
Changes that are necessary for you to become the future you.
Illness may or may not precipitate it (you may be caring for someone else) and even if it does - illness is part of life. Plain and simple, no one avoids it forever.
Okay - a closer look and I do see a frustration of your physical energy - your Mars coming, mid year.
Mars = physical strength, fighting, anger, raw male energy.
T Saturn = restriction.
Now this is a sorry transit - because it is very hard to get you way.
It is like yelling with a muzzle on or pushing on the gas pedal only to find the brake is on no matter what you do. One way or another, your raw male energy / your anger / you urge to get up and do is thwarted.
How?
Well if a Marsy pregnant woman is put on bed rest by the doctor...
Or if a man who likes to beat is wife is put in jail by a judge..
Or if a principal makes a child stay inside for recess..
See the authority figure in these examples?
That is Saturn.
Mars is the person that wants to move. That is you.
The result is terrific frustration, and in your case it is exasperated because Saturn and mars are conjunct in your N chart.
Okay..
So if I put this together I can see a scenario where you could be ill and this could come with restriction of movement.
However, I also know that although this energy will without a doubt manifest in your life - there are many many ways for this to occur, and so if this were ME, I would begin to align myself.
I think we have choices, so I would start to make 'em so that they are not made for me.
Like you - I am a control freak
How?
Lets see...
Lungs and Heart + Health?
If I smoked, I would say - okay, it's been real but the gig is up..
Daily habits? Start walking.
Someone is going to authority figure "police" my activities (Mars)??
Uh.. no thank you. I will do that myself.
If it is a regimen I need - then I will create it before it is created for me.
I think this is self directed living, and nobs - this is your best choice because you cannot tolerate someone telling you what to do. You run the show, you always have and this is a good thing.
Just again for the record - you are not dying. You have a packed 8th house, and this Capricorn action going and as far as I am concerned, someone like you will die when they damned well please.
Capricorn rising has control of their body. Make no mistake about that.
Ruler Saturn is in the 8th house (death).
There you go.
It will be your call. I think you will go into your 80s at least and 90's if you want.
For the record - a year out or so you are going to be afraid about death too - so let me just clear it up right now.
You ain't dyin. "Afraid you are going to die" and "dying" are two different animals!
More later unless you want me to stop. I need a break now, this is longer than I thought.
*****Note to the air signs *****
sorry about all this death but you see Mars is in Scorpio and so the Scorpios are coming down from their perches and this is their gig.
posted on January 22, 2001 02:53:29 PM new
For crying out loud...thanks for telling me. I was having so much fun goofing...I missed it. I believe it's the Virgo moon thing...
posted on January 22, 2001 02:57:28 PM new
dcj/intuit reading for toke...
You are whole.
Meaning you've walked through the fire and out the other side, and come out with the most important part of you intact.
And the external parts still smart from that fire, and they've given you a fast wit and an even faster mouth, and you probably don't see that this makes you even more endearing, because you're not really after being endearing any more, you're after something greater.
You're an idealist with walls made from reality, and you hold on to one and chafe against the other, and hope for the best when the collision occurs.
You are no longer afraid. You used to be.
At the same time, you are no longer sure. And you used to be.
Within that paradox, you protect what is yours, and you do so with a noble dignity that inspires.
And you have all you need, if you choose to believe it, and you have it with the surety of one who's walked through the fire and come out the other side.
posted on January 22, 2001 03:10:20 PM new
Ya have to, I'm off to create dinnerswill, and it will be ruint (even more than normal) if y'all are talking about me!
posted on January 22, 2001 03:36:10 PM new
Well, I just got off the phone with "that sweet woman" ... in the process of choppin' up frozen cow bits she dropped the knife on her foot. Naturally she calls ME -- 400 miles away -- to announce that blood is spurting in an arc across the kitchen. I bark some directions to her: "Lie down! Elevate your foot above your head! Is it REALLY bad? Should you call the hospital?"
I'm growing increasingly panicked and SHE's laughing! LAUGHING!! And not doing a damn thing I tell her to do. It dawns on me then that this was today's "make-the-Taurus-nuts" exercise. It worked.
For all I know she's still in the kitchen, laughing her head off and eating raw meat.
Anyway, Toke, don't expect her back here anytime soon. When I get done with your doll, I'm startin' in on hers.
posted on January 22, 2001 03:53:54 PM newVM
Before I type anything else - thank you so much.
(For the record here I asked you some very general questions, one being about my health and the other being about moving and those are the exact words too I did not go into any detail, I just asked to know something about my health and moving)
Well, I am stunned that you have written down things that could have been pulled right out of my subconcious. I will tell you now that I do have some serious health issues and when you have serious health issues it is natural to have subconscious fears of dying. It is something that I try not to let come into my conscious mind because I will NOT give in or up easily . Your observations were astoundingly accurate all the way through right down to the time of birth.
When I asked my Mother (she has passed and so has my only sibling) when I was born, I now remember that she said that the mailman always came at 11:30 and you could set your clock by him and I came right before he got to the door. I lived at the end of a very long driveway so 11:27 seems accurate. I remember her saying that 11:30 was put on my birth record but that it was off by a few minutes. BTW - funny story, my sister was 2 years old at the time and knocked the mailman's mail all over screaming that her Mommy just had a baby. She was right in front of the house and she caught him coming to the door.
I really appreciate all your help, it made me smile to hear you see me living a long life. I have been disabled for a while and I am determined to live long and prosper
If you have a few minutes - can you tell me if you see my Taurean daughter moving in the coming year?
posted on January 22, 2001 04:03:14 PM new
nobs - you are quite welcome and I have more to say probably have a chance after dinner BUT:
If you have a few minutes - can you tell me if you see my Taurean daughter moving in the coming year?
I have not looked, but I am laughing about this...
When is the Taurus going to MOOOOOVE - lol!
I'm boogying right on out of here...heh........
You're a sweet woman, Diana. I'll stop teasing you...temporarily.