posted on January 20, 2001 06:52:29 PM new
oh kitsch1 - that's very kind but you should look again.
I actually look like Mr Spock. See the eyebrows?
Plus I have married 2 Deadheads and they both told me I look like Mickey Hart.
How can I argue?
I can't.
Kris - thanks for posting, I will look again at your son. I have a real affinity for Capricorn. (See how I remember!) I know I have more ideas.
On that note today my Never Forget Anything Taurus husband is talking to me today and he says (while rubbing his forehead)
"I ran into a door and hit my head when I was a freshman in high school and I can still feel it."
Those dreams he doesnt want to talk about. I promise you, I have a bead on em. Horrifying dreams where one is either the victim or the demon. You wake up wondering how your mind could take you to such levels. I've had them since I was very small.
If you ever want to know how I was finally was able to deal with them or want to hear what its like from a child view email me. I might could help.
I'll tell you one thing now tho and it may seem deceptive, but I would start a talk with him with a dream of your own, one that is a lie, yes, I'm suggesting lying if his dreams are anything like mine are and have always been he will think that you will never ever understand.
So tell him a dream of yours where you murder someone or something of the like and let him let out to you.
Let him know that his dreams are not him. They are not real, they are a release. Sometimes there is no past pain or present pain, but in fact there is just an extremely busy mind.
After you tell him a couple of your dreams (yes lying is ok here) have him write about his and promise to him that noone will ever read them unless he offers to show them (no lying is not good here) let him have his privacy.
posted on January 20, 2001 07:14:11 PM new
If the dreams are disturbing and he feels like he is a monster or a victim always in them it will be painful and confusing if he doesnt get it out. If he doesnt see that other people dream like that too, he will have so many problems.
I am no expert in anything, no psyciatrist, no doctor, just a fellow sufferer.
But I have an opinion and I hope for you to listen........ Tell him that his mind is busy and he picks up things from all around him because he is special and feels pain and happiness and excitement and anger from all around him and its a gift that he will one day treasure and understand and its also a burden that wont go away.
posted on January 20, 2001 07:24:18 PM new
Thanks, kitsch. I probably wouldn't have to lie, since I go through periods myself of being very disturbed by my dreams. In addition to the things you describe, it is where my dead haunt me. Sometimes, just that fact is enough to make them disturbing, even tho the dream itself may not have been bad. It was after a night spent with my mom, my grandma and my first true love that prompted the initial conversation that day - the alarm clock had come on during deep REM sleep, and it was all too fresh when I crawled out to start the day. So we had chatted about why Mom seemed distracted that morning, and I took the opportunity to ask about his dreams. The dr. did tell me it isn't unusual for kids to clam up about this stuff - that it's hard for them to tell their parents about it. But after the appt yesterday, we were able to talk a little about it on the way home, and he opened up a little bit. Very little, but at least the door was opened.
Would you mind emailing me? I don't think I have your email addy anymore. I would very much appreciate any help I can get in reaching out to him. As his mom, it breaks my heart. And there are days I know it is breaking his, too - it shows in his behavior and his demeanor.
posted on January 20, 2001 08:37:10 PM new
another thing dejavu - if you want a proper composite, I need the city where you live "now" since this is where the relationship exists.
You can email if you want.
Worried wife your husband is a dble Scorpio.
In fact - Sun, rising, Venus, Mercury in Scorpio with a Sag Moon.
I think that your perception is correct that your marriage will be tested over the next year and into 2002. That said - I think it with withstand the test, but you are going to have to be smart about it.
Don't get me wrong - he has to be smart too, but I am talking to you since you are talking to me ...
Let me be clear about this.
This is not how to keep your man - 101 class, this is the how to have the best life you can - 301 course.
So here is what you are up against.
Your husband has a massive Uranus transit to all his Scorpio.
This will manifest in the form of a strong desire to break his old mold, and you would be very wise to allow this because trying to prevent it will not only be futile, it will further incite him.
This is harder to do than it is to say - but do it anyway because if you can you will come through this beautifully.
Here is a good bit of advice.
DO NOT TAKE IT PERSONALLY.
If he pulls on the reins - let go, and you will find that he finds ANOTHER entity besides you to strain against.
Do you see what I am saying?
My husband is have T Uranus sq his Taurus now (same thing as you husband but backwards) and guess what?
He is rebelling against everyone BUT me, because I am the only one who is not trying to restrict him.
He is rebelling against his parents, his religion, his past, his previous limits, etc. etc. etc.
This is not a bad thing, it is a good thing.
My husband is growing and yours will to - just don't make it so he has to be away from you to be able too.
Believe me, he does not want that.
Your guy is MEGA fixed and does not like to be changing partners and crap like that in the least.
Be smart, stay cool and you prevail.
Okay..
That is 1/2 of it, and now it gets sticky.
Same time he is going though this you will be having a Saturn transit.
Damn!
This is going to make it very difficult for you to feel your best, and this is going to make everything I wrote before very hard to do. However. You CAN do it.
You only need to COMMIT.
First decide if you want him. You need to know for sure.
If you do, then commit to be his partner as he grows and do not try to stop him because of your fear.
If you can do this, can you see how good this will be for YOU.
I will make this ultra clear.
You are going to have a very hard road here.
You can let it take you down for a week or two or a year and then start working at it, OR you can start when you hear the gun go off and understand that what will be doing is slowly rising to the top like cream VIA hard work.
This is not 3 steps forward, 2 steps back stuff - this is slow steady progress each and every day.
You will be plodding along (and in good company with TD, aw lurker, and so many others) but if you do not face your fear and start this work, you will watch things deteriorate around you until you do.
When you see it's like that (and it is) then plodding becomes pretty attractive.
These are your picks.
He rebels - you become scared - you try to restrict him - he rebels more - you become even more frightened - try to further restrict, he rebels and next thing you know he lives across town.
OR
He rebels - you become scared - you decide to behave like an adult, discipline your childish urges, act wisely, and voila - he has no need to rebel (against you).
What he is going to need is a best friend. He is not in for an easy time either - just very different from you.
The kind of best friend he needs is not the kind who tells him what is good for him and what he is supposed to do.
Do NOT become the heavy here or you lose.
The kind of best friend he needs is the kind that loves him enough to allow him to let him experiment with his ways of being / reinvent himself, so that he can have a more satisfying life.
You are going to need security.
Like I said, I expect your husband is going *nowhere* and your relationship will be secure, but honestly, what you can get at the end of this period is something far more precious - to be secure with yourself, and that is what you should chase.
To hold a death grip on someone is no way to live for either person.
Your N Saturn is in the 7th house (partner/ marriage) - this is the stage.
Your Saturn transit is a time to work on being responsible and adult in your relationships - and here is the simple way to get going.
Ask yourself "what kind of adult do I want to be in my marriage" and when you get your answer - then that's the top of the mountain / your goal.
Next thing you do is start climbing.
In the end you will have achieved something your could not have gotten any other way.
Make sense?
I hope so.
Good luck, be well.
ps... worried wife, I am not suggesting that you hold a death grip on your husband.
I am suggesting that over the next months you may be inclined to for the reasons I think I have laid out.
He takes some space in the same time frame that you are feeling vulnerable...
This is dicey for reals, so just be smart and make it into a period that improves your relationship dramatically - making it more secure while taking it into the future.
This potential is absolutely there.
Just take responsibility - grab the wheel and drive the car to the destination of your choice. IOW, don't let fear take the wheel.
posted on January 21, 2001 05:45:23 AM new
Hi VM~ Portland, Maine is where we live know but Naples Florida is also where we spend alot of time, together and on our own.Eventually Florida will become our permanent home. I suppose that really screw things up!We are kind of transient but Maine has been our home for the last 22 years.
posted on January 21, 2001 07:05:30 AM new
Okay Maddienicks - your son is a Capricorn.
He is a Capricorn sun, a Capricorn rising, and he has Mars, Mercury, Uranus, Neptune and his N node all in Capricorn.
Of course a stack of planets in on sign like this is very much an anomaly.
So the first thing is he is OVERWHELMINGLY Capricorn. If there are expectations that he behave otherwise - he is going to have serious difficulty fulfilling them.
His Moon is in Taurus more EARTH, Saturn is in the 1st house - more EARTH, and Jupiter is in Virgo - more EARTH.
The first thing people around him can do is accept him and appreciate him for exactly what he is. He is not going to flit. Not ever. This is not what he is about.
The other thing is that he is massively CARDINAL (the boss)
Cardinal signs run businesses. They run their families like a business even - ask them. He has a huge desire to control and ability to match.
Capricorn is a Cardinal sign and his Moon is in the 4th house (Cancer / Cardinal) opp. Pluto in the 10th house (Capricorn / Cardinal).
This is why I suggested that he start his own business. You do not really have a child here, you have a man, and running a business is this mans element. It is like providing a duck with water.
The other thing for all this Capricorn is what I have been writing these last couple pages.
Saturn / Capricorn NEEDS Jupiter and here is where you are perfectly suited to assist.
Jupiter to cheer and make him laugh and pick him up.
Your Sun has Jupiter in Virgo conjunct your Ascendent, Uranus and Pluto in Virgo.
What this means is that you ignite his Jupiter. Your ascendent would be your physical presence - so just being in the room with him is a help to him. Uranus surprises and Pluto heals and if I were you I would do this...
Learn everything you can about Capricorn and adjust your thinking about how you may want your son to be (I know you want him happy) to be in line with what he naturally is. This is like - if your kid is an artist then forget about your dreams of him being a football player and go get him some paint or a guitar or whatever.
Then work his Jupiter by cultivating Virgo.
Virgo people, and Virgo things.
His Virgo is in the 8th house by the way (Scorpio) so dh (I have this data) intensity is also very good.
What are Virgo things?
BOOKS!
Virgo in the 8th?
Books on psychology for one thing.
Now on the dreams - he has 4 planets in the 12th house. This kid has a rich dream life. I agree with kitsch1 about focusing on them. I would seriously consider getting him dream interpretation books. Not only will he learn that dreams are not to be taken literally - you may see him quickly become passionate, and this is what you want.
Let Jupiter in Virgo in the 8th glean a deep understanding about the 12th house (dreams) and assist.
This can and will happen very easily because he has a trine (easy aspect) from the Virgo to all the Cap and so this is the KEY.
Jump start that Virgo, and when he comes home with some Virgo gal - make sure he marries her! Virgo is HEALING to him.
Also..
Saturn is leaving Taurus (off him Moon - depressed feelings will subside now) BUT is coming to square the Jupiter in Virgo which means "work on it" .. so very good time to have him study. That way you have a positive result - otherwise it will be expressed in all kinds of twisted ways. Left alone, T Saturn sq Jupiter feels like freedom is restricted. Directed - T Saturn sq Jupiter results in study (Saturn) to expand your horizons (Jupiter) and the result is terrific.
This is the bottom line here.
I like your son's chart. He has some very nice aspects - but maddienicks, he will never blend in.
Hardly anyone has 6 placements in the same sign. I mean, forget about it - this happens every 200 years or so.
What he is going to have to do and what he will so is become his excellent self, and the best thing you can do is facilitate that by giving him the materials he needs to make his life work. This is no different than having a kid who can play the cello like a fiend. What you do is give them a damned cello and give the cowboy rodeo stuff you bought for them when they were 2 YO to another kid.
Your son is extraordinary. Plain and simple - that is the truth.
Couple other points to make.
He is acutely sensitive. All this earth is in water houses and what he lacks nearly entirely is AIR which means he has no means of DETACHING. If anyone around him is quipping little bites at him (meant in fun even) this is causing serious pain.
His Moon is in the 4th house, so he is on the Cancer mood cycle with the Moon -- IOW if he is being a pain, or in a funk - he will come out of it 2.5 days later. Try not to rattle his cage too much when he withdraws. He needs time alone. This is true of anyone with lots of planets in the 12th house.
Last, and one more time - I expect he ends up with a lot of money someday.
Your kid is a powerhouse, that is no kidding. This also means he is not typical. It is very difficult to be both extraordinary and typical at the same time ---
posted on January 21, 2001 08:50:17 AM new
Okay, Maddienicks - back from the gym and still thinking about your son.
He will get good benefit from psychotherapy, and I don't think this is a given for everyone. Some people are better served lying on a beach somewhere, I really believe this. Not so with Jupiter in Scorpio or Jupiter in the 8th house. Wherever Jupiter is in a chart - this is where you find "God" - where things are expansive, optimistic and boundless. In your son's case - 8th house which is psychotherapy.
My best pal Ben has Jupiter in the 8th in Virgo and went for a handful of sessions and walked away with 2or 3 keys that literally turned his life on a dime. This is the kind of thing I am talking about. Big benefit - his entire perspective will be changed (8th house / transformed).
The other thing I wanted to offer is this wild pitch.
I was driving around the other day and I heard that there is going to be a 3 day walk for breast cancer in my area. This will be a large group of people walking from one city, through another and to a third, over 3 days - camping along the way from what I gathered from the short radio ad. They called it a "walking city". They also specified that this was not an athletic event - just normal people.
Anyway, my first impulse was to go. Very oddly because it is so prevalent, I do not know anyone with breast cancer 1st or even 2nd hand, but I would go for to support a cause and also for the experience which I am quite sure would be life changing. The whole thing sounds like an opportunity to me.
Anyway - I was thinking that something like this might serve your son.
If you remember last time, I told you he needed a big mountain to climb. The sense of accomplishment from something like this would be very good for him and stay with him a long while, if not a life time. I suppose those "kids in the outback" type retreats do the same thing - but I like this idea better for him because it serves others and he has the packed 12th and the Virgo.
(Virgo/Pisces 6th/12th house - is the serve of suffer axis)
I also mention this because I have some first hand experience with someone like your son.
My grandfather was a double Capricorn. This is the same guy who would stand on his head on top of mountains all the time - well hundreds of times, that is for sure.
Anyway, he used to go on all the walk-a-thons.
20 miles.
I went too. I was 7 -10 yrs old and he was 75.
What I am thinking here is that you have all this Virgo and something like this would be spectacular for YOU as well.
This is maddienicks son's chart.
Note the huge grouping of planets on the left side - 12th house. That is all the Capricorn.
maddienicks - see the blue lines...?
Those are trines aka as serious support.
What you want to do is try to feed what feeds all that Capricorn.
Make sense?
Also, just in general note how much support there is. This is not a trainwreck - this is a powerhouse. Just not normal is all
posted on January 21, 2001 10:23:54 AM new
Okay - this is for the Scorpio gal, who does not hide well.
Q - How are you going to hide all this power?
A - You aren't.
You are a Scorpio with a Scorpio rising.
Ruler of the chart /Scorpio is Pluto which is EXACT on the midheaven (PUBLIC) in Leo (BE SEEN).
Now that is more than plenty but there is more..
Your Moon is in the 8th house (Scorpio) and so if we peel back the obvious and the facade, we find the same damn thing underneath.
Okay, so you are overwhelmingly Plutonian but not PURE.
Your Moon is in Gemini and so you are a gifted flirt.
Think - GOLDIE HAWN.
She is a Scorpio with a Gemini Moon.
GRACE SLICK - Scorpio Sun, and asc. just like yours with Moon in Gemini.
and my personal favorite -- BONNIE RAITT - Scorpio w/ Gemini Moon
Lets just put it this way..
Someone reading this *already* wants a date with you
Okay - besides all this sexual pull - you have a packed 11th house.
This has got to be a good thing, even a great thing, with all this Scorpio because the 11th house is detached and intellectual. It also has concerns about humanity and groups (like the one at auction watch for example) - this is akin to what I wrote about junquemama.
This gives you an Aquarian streak which allows you to socialize very easily (remember it is Aquarius who makes *everybody* feel at home at a party) and offers you a respite from the constant intensity of the main of your life which is basically - sex, death, the psychology of the collective, etc etc. heavy Scorpio territory.
Last, since I have been writing about Jupiter - your is in the 5th house (WHOOPS! more sex of the recreation type) in Aries (ruled by Mars - even more sex).
Jupiter in the 5th invariably makes me think "courtly behavior" - like days of Kings and Queens and drama like you would find at a renaissance festival.
The 5th house opposed the 11th so you have two dynamics here that oppose.
Part of you is very future oriented and cutting edge.
The other part of you is Leo royalty - wants to go back to the days when women were women and ... well you know.
On your job question you are most definitely going to go for the change. T Uranus - as I keep writing comes along to take you to your future.
Scorpio hates change and so will resist by nature but in the end you will go to your new land and absolutely you will love it although the disruption will be disruptive to some extent
Also - there is a thing with your home. You are due to get a surprisingly good deal on one / or with the one you have, and probably both. If you are thinking of buying a new home, at the new place you are going to get a super good deal - you will have no doubt and it is all going to happen very very fast. April, May, June, July - turmoil on the home front, but it is EXCELLENT - particularly May and JUNE.
For information -- when I had this transit I put my house on the market and someone bought it.
They asked to buy a couple appliances in the contract and by the time it was all said and done, they bought every single thing I had. The whole house, an old Mercedes in the yard - EVERYTHING. Pots pans, tvs; tools - this guy even tried to buy my dog!
Bottom line, is 21 days later, I was completely liberated and I am not stupid.
I left the state and went to my new life.
I have not looked back even once.
posted on January 21, 2001 11:09:55 AM new
On this house thing Scorpio gal -- here is the deal.
You have a Gemini Moon where Moon = home.
T Jupiter is in Gemini and so will bring a benefit or expand the home (Jupiter makes things bigger).
At the same time - T Uranus is trining (good aspect) your Gemini Moon. This brings the surprise into the equation - but because there is a trine (easy) it is not a SHOCK but a more pleasant surprise.
As added evidence - T Uranus is entering the 4th house (HOME) which just underscores the whole idea of change on the home front - Jupiter makes sure it is beneficial...
Last - N Uranus is in the 8th house, so you could inherit a house, win a house, be given a house, or just get an extreme good break on a dead person's house but I do think there is a bigger house in the very near future (or someone moves in with you and this brings huge benefit). Bottom line look for Jupiter gift on the home/mother/emotion/roots front and one you are not planning right now, and at the same time - liberation...
ps also benefit from women (the moon again) in general..
I qualify here
posted on January 21, 2001 12:15:55 PM new
Okay - Scorpio gal - your son inherited your Pluto on the midheaven. Yours is in Leo (BE SEEN) his is in Scorpio (RULER) and so on this front he has you bested.
This is a good thing, like boiling down your power to it's very essence and transferring to your son. A hugely creative act.
As a Scorpio you must leave a hell of a legacy and this is what you are doing via your son.
btw - his Pluto is @ 25 Scorpio conjunct your Sun.
His birth NO DOUBT killed you dead (a state which you quite naturally regenerate from) - who you were I mean prior to his birth was wiped from the earth and from those ashes the new you was born.
Am I saying that when he was born, your were reborn?
Yes.
That is what I am saying. Not only that, but this process will repeat for the rest of your lives, and I hope I can convey this in a way you can grab.
Lots of different situations out there.
Parents whose children repel them - parents who cannot manage to let go of their children, parents whose children are their mirror image, etc. etc.
Some families relate in a superficial way, some families are very heavy with each other,, blah blah blah.
In the case between you and your son - what you have is power in it's purest form. Make that an exchange of power in it's purest form.
I do not care what is happening on the surface - the real deal is profoundly deep and you (or he) will never be able to contain, control, or even be completely fathom or have awareness of it. It is bigger than both of you - it transcends ego completely.
What you can do, and what you must to is channel it.
Forget FLUFFY.
You are not a fluffy family.
Appreciate that there is an enormous exchange of energy between you and your son and this is for good or ill and heal or kill.
I am not being dramatic and I am not overstating this.
He got his power from you and he will learn what to do with it from you.
His power = his pluto
His Pluto = you Sun (you vital life energy)
IOW you can use your life energy to empower and infuse your kid so that he soars ------
or you can let your ego get in there - have a power struggle with him so that he has to "kill" the energy of you at some point in his life in order to get out from under and claim the power that is his birthright.
Obviously I think you should launch you son. The other is a waste of good energy, ya now? Everything you put in him you will get back in spades for good or ill. Your Sun is literally the match to light his rocket and I think you ought to aim him and let him rip.
Okay.....
He has major Capricorn.
He is going to make you proud - this little man.
He has a 9th house Moon / Jupiter in Libra and so he has the anecdote to all this Capricorn (Jupiter) in his nature. I have to say that his potential is simply enormous.
In his highest form, he will powerful, responsible, generous, loving. compassionate, and wise.
He will not get there overnight.
The other thing I would say is that like maddienicks son - your kid needs to be in charge.
Give him something that he can oversee independent from you. He will thrive on responsibility. These little Capricorns should decide their own punishment for example. You may be surprised at how strict they are.
Your son's standards are high by his nature - so you may do well to let him set them and then hold him too it. This is a way to let them run their own life which Capricorn is truly meant to do.
If your kid were my kid I would tell him that nothing was out of his reach.
That would be the truth.
Understand that he is more ambitious than you. He has the chart of an international power broker.
That's no kidding, and this is another thing. When he is feeling like crap and adventure will pick him up. Outdoor sports. Sag, stuff. The opposite of rest.
posted on January 21, 2001 02:59:05 PM new
This is for T in Denver.
I got your list of questions and I am afraid I don't have much I can offer.
Here is why.
Everything you asked about (except your sister) is Venus related.
Venus = money, love, partnerships.
It is easy for me to see why this is on your mind and you are wishing to nail these type issues down.
It is because you can sense what is on the horizon which is extreme unpredictability.
Now by nature this is how it is for you anyway.
Love, money and relationships are very unpredictable - this is a part of your life you are unable to stabilize / control. I am not saying this is done "to" you - you like a lot of freedom and this is why you do not line up to sign up to commit.
This is very apparent in you chart is 3 ways.
You have Venus sq Uranus in your chart
You have N Uranus in the 2nd (Venus) house
and you have Aquarius / Uranus ruling your 7th (Venus) house.
Now...
Along comes T Uranus in the sky to aspect all this and what is already very volatile and unpredictable becomes this way times a factor of 10, but more like a factor of 100.
So....
You sense this and want to know the outcome, but it is wholly unpredictable. I well appreciate your desire to want to nail down things that are unstable but I am quite certain that you are not going to be able to do this.
I do not mean you are going broke. I do mean that you are very likely to get income (or love) from places you least expect and nothing from places you would deem most likely.
I can tell you this unequivocally.
Partnerships you form in this time frame are likely to be short lived. You will absolutely pair up, and in very fast fashion, but you will find that these partnerships (romantic or otherwise) end just as quickly and on to the next. You will be progressing and very fast but it will not be via stability. I know this is not reassuring - but I also know that it is helpful to know ahead you are headed into a tornado so that you are not blind sided.
On the house - I see no reason not to buy - your Moon (house) is in good shape. The money may be weird, but that does not mean it will not be there to pay for what you need. As a matter of fact your house / your home will be the calm place in this storm. The storm is utterly around money / partners / other people's money/ and self esteem issues that arise because of this chaos - your home and your family (that lives with you) is due to calm down from recent upheaval.
On your sister, I am sorry but I do not know this either.
Siblings are ruled by Mercury and your Mercury is right on top your Venus - and so part of this whole period of fast changes that is right around the corner. Expect the unexpected!
On a time frame - things are going to be flying fast like this clear through 2002.
What can you expect to get out of this?
Freedom.
Freedom to love who you want / how you want. Freedom to form creative partnerships and an understanding that people pair off for growth and sometimes un pair off when there job is done together.
In the end of this you will give love freely and you will receive the same.
Money?
Same thing.
I am sorry I cannot offer something less violent - but bottom line - the storm you are sensing is real. This does not mean that you will not fare well. It just means that it will not be plain vanilla...
posted on January 21, 2001 03:27:25 PM new
Worried wife - with this new info - lets just talk about you.
You are having a Saturn transit to your 7th house (love) Saturn.
Here is (some) of what I have already written about this:
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(general - not to rawpunzel)
If you are trying to hold on to a unworkable relationship because you are afraid - it is a safe bet the thing will end and you will be forced to face your fear.
If you are trying to leave a perfectly good relationship because you are immature - you will be forced to stay and grow up around and about the partner.
If you want to leave a relationship and you put an honest effort into getting your need met but it is not possible for whatever reason, you will be able to leave - will the backing of the universe - head held high, and knowing you are doing the right thing.
IOW - Saturn will straighten everything out.
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When Saturn transits anything to do with Venus - the person becomes afraid that they are not lovable or that their relationship is going to end.
Rarely does this occur.
Usually there really are issues in the relationship and so via the transit the person is forced to work on them and what happens is that there is a RE-commitment and effort put forth and the result is an improved situation.
This is the scenario I descried to you last post.
Okay now...
The relationship WILL end if it is completely unworkable.
You will be forced to look at your relationship through ultra adult eyes and if the relationship can not be made to meet your needs and your needs are reasonable - then you will leave the relationship.
The reason you will leave the relationship is because it will become to painful to endure.
I hope this clarifies some.
In the end - all these scenarios deliver the same message.
The universe really wants us to have our needs met. This is not the case for you right now and so the universe is going to force your hand.
Everything else I wrote still holds.
The slow and all that. You are going to be smarter and stronger and in better shape on the other side of this time frame, but no way is all this going to just dissolve for you. It will work out because you will work it out.
His shock via Uranus?
Just may be when you throw him out on his ass, ya know?
Who's to say, but things are going to change.
edit because bold messed up.
[ edited by VeryModern on Jan 21, 2001 04:29 PM ]
[ edited by VeryModern on Jan 21, 2001 04:33 PM ]
posted on January 21, 2001 03:57:07 PM new
maddienicks - your son's chart is nothing short of awesome. You could sit and look at charts at random all day for a year and not run acoss a line up like that.
As I think I wrote (or perhaps I just thought it) astrologers all over the world are watching these kids.
posted on January 21, 2001 10:18:05 PM new
VeryModern,I have been around a few of the capicorn boys.I can offer a little bit.(caps run in the family) They do need alone time.If you hear strange noises from the bedroom,Like
Cars,trains,planes,talking to someone,this is part of play and planning.And it does start early.There may be a power play,The child may try to be an adult and you the child.One thing for sure,They never revert back to being a kid.They do have a quick temper,More so out of frustration of being a kid and reminded they are a kid.An old man trying to
get out.Some may be interested in astrology,
as it is an understanding of their confussed
state.Under that temper is probley the biggest softie to love.They usually love
their Mamas.Let him grow up early.Let him get that part-time job,He will be the hard worker and loveing pay day.And they are very happy to be an only child. Anything sound familiar?
posted on January 21, 2001 10:50:55 PM new
VM,I can help a little with dreams.Read a few books way back when.The problem of the bad dreams this day and time is usually what the child does or sees during the day.If the child has a soft heart or very sensitive,It affects them more.Watching bad movies or those scarey game programs,Can really stick in their subconscience,And later replayed in a horrible dream.What is feared the most will play over and over.And they can get worse.
The normal bad dreams,Someone dies,Or is killed right in front of you,Or worse yet
You are the killer is played out by what is going on around you.The death in any dream is
Either a new beginning,Or a new baby by someone you know.Your dreams are just the opposite of what is really going on.It is a rare thing to dream of something that really
Happens.If you are going thru some rough times,This too will garner a nightmare,But it all can be traced to your surroundings.Dreaming about annimals even snakes,Can mean something good.They are Gods creatures,They mean no harm in your dreams.
A pregnant woman will have some really weird
And scary dreams,Something,someone trying to take the baby while she is carrying it.If you
Dream of riches and jeweles,Tighten up the check book,tear up the credit cards.If you walk in poop,(I said it nice)The more poop,
and the grosser the dream,Or lots of water around to walk in,Usually means big bucks on the way.Its been a while since I ve read anything on dreams,Some of it stuck.
posted on January 22, 2001 06:03:05 AM new
My daughter (5 YO) has dreams that trouble her now and then. I did not know what was going on for a long time - she would just get up and it would be hell to pay for everyone in the house for not reason that was apparent.
Anyway - she eventually copped one time to having a bad dream but did not want to tell what it was.
I kept at her, explaining that holding it all inside was making it worse, that it was okay to tell - and I asked questions..
"Did someone die?"
A- "yes"
Of course at this age kids can think they have done something wrong, they can't possibly has a perspective and so I feel like you have to give them one if you know they are having dreams like this because imagine the turmoil they must endure.
Okay -- so my daughter still has dreams on occasion and will cop with a couple hours of waking up and she will tell what the dream was which really disperses it's power.
Her last was that her beloved stuffed dog had to leave home and I just cringe at the idea of her having a haunting dream like that and walking around with it polluting her day.
Instead it is up and out of her and I can tell her that this is not going to happen and explain that it is just a fear.
This is like monsters in the closet really - but much worse for a child because it originates IN them.
Anyway - if you think about a 5 YO trying to function in school after watching their "Velveteen Rabbit" leave home 25 times in the night with no way to process and no perspective - it is pretty easy to see how this kid is not going to function worth a damn that day, and no wonder they are screaming and acting out all day. How could they not?
posted on January 22, 2001 06:22:47 AM new
bobbi - yes, Yes, YES to the travel. Absolutely, go have the adventure.
Good timing?
No. GREAT timing.
Contraindications?
NONE
Vegas?
YES!
Low feelings will spin off behind you as soon as you get moving.
Jupiter (luck, expansion, travel, adventure) is T your 9th house (it's own house) and headed for your Jupiter return (when Ju[piter in the sky returns to the same place it was when you were born).
All of this is utterly in support of you having an adventure and the problems you are having are likely to force your hand and get you in the car. Really bobbi - with the Jupiter action, the precise way to take advantage is to get on the road.
As a extra bonus, it will drive the Taurus mad, and that is always fun yes/no?
posted on January 22, 2001 06:58:56 AM new
ah, but plsmith - bobbi is a Double Aries ruled by Mars and so it is her job to antagonize Taurus ruled by Venus.
This is what invigorates and incites Venus passion.
Venus is only 1/2 of something without Mars and reverse is just as true.
posted on January 22, 2001 07:06:33 AM new
So plsmith - I kept telling my Taur husband that I wanted to go OUT and he procrastinated.
I got sick of this and so I told him I was having a t-shirt made.
"Neglected Wife"
and that I was going to wear it out.
I asked him if he thought that was a lot of men's fantasies... to stumble on a neglected wife. "What do you think"?" I asked.
2 days later a baby sitter had ,materialized and I am out on a date with my husband.
See.
You MUST torture Taurus otherwise they just stand still in a field.
posted on January 22, 2001 07:09:35 AM new
Oh, fine. Now you're telling me it's actually some people's job to rile us up? I don't know how much more of this I can take...
posted on January 22, 2001 07:49:18 AM new
VM - Thanks for looking all that up for me! It seems strange that I'd have these intuitions and at the same time my chart is actually saying "go for it" - heck, I figured you'd say my chart said just the opposite.
posted on January 22, 2001 09:13:50 AM new
Was reading the thread this morning via e mail and saw what you were saying about dreams.
My dad had Alzheimers and would have VIVID dreams. One nite he woke us up in total fear that THEY were coming to kill us and we had to get our guns ready to stop them..
It took us SEVERAL hours to finally calm him down and make him believe that we had the house covered. There was no way we could tell him it was a dream, because he didn't understand it..
Now this was a man in his late 70's and he could not equate what a dream was..
So can you imagine what a child must feel with a dream...
And haven't we all been woke with a dream that is so vivid, that we get up and check to see if all is ok.
The imagination is a wonderus thing...
Joan
posted on January 22, 2001 09:45:00 AM new
<-----feeling sorry for poor plsmith, casting about to employ a torturer. Feeling more sorry for the poor field where plsmith is standing, rooted, waiting to be tortured into leaving. Remembering that such apostolic missions are part of my destiny...how could I possibly turn down the job?
D.(off to buy tee shirt entitled "I'm with Scarecrow"
posted on January 22, 2001 09:48:19 AM new
plsmith -
Taurus = rich fertile soil.
That's great but it just sits there.
We don't really see what it can do until Mars plants a seed.
Think "Mars = seed = sperm".
bobbi - what you are doing is heading towards an opportunity. There is not doubt about this.
Joan - very interesting point, and very sad. It underscores how crucial it is to teach kids to process their dreams, and offers another reason -- because we can.
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