posted on January 3, 2001 04:39:04 PM new
The only thing I can offer on the 7 year transit,Let it go.The harder you hang on,The worse it will beat you up.You will be drained.You will know the feel, of to let it go,In the back of your mind,You know you don't really need it.Its painfull to keep.
Honesty with yourself, can help you on this one.We don't like to lose our stuff,Thats what is at work,Instead of need.The faster you let go,The faster other things come into your life.It was a hard lesson learned.Don't
be afraid,Nervous is ok,Thats natural.At the time I went thru mine,It affected my home,Finances,health,relationships with friends and family.You will really know who your friends are,And your family members will
show them selves as well.When you come out of this,It will shock everyone on how well you are now doing.And that stuff"(you gave up)Now seems like junk.Bigger and better rewards.
posted on January 3, 2001 04:55:45 PM new
I just got this in email.
>>Instructions for Life in the new millennium from the
>Dalai Lama:
>>
>>1. Take into account that great love and great
>achievements involve
>>great risk.
>>
>>2. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
>>
>>3. Follow the three Rs: Respect for self, respect for
>others
>>responsibility for all your actions.
>>
>>4. Remember that not getting what you want is
>sometimes a wonderful
>>stroke of luck.
>>
>>5. Learn the rules so you know how to break them
>properly.
>>
>>6. Don't let a little dispute injure a great
>friendship.
>>
>>7. When you realize you've made a mistake, take
>immediate steps to
>>correct it.
>>
>>8. Spend some time alone every day.
>>
>>9. Open your arms to change, but don't let go of your
>values.
>>
>>10. Remember that silence is sometimes the best
>answer.
>>
>>11. Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get
>older and think
>>back, you'll be able to enjoy it a second time.
>>
>>12. A loving atmosphere in your home is the
>foundation for your life.
>>
>>13. In disagreements with loved ones, deal only with
>the current
>>situation. Don't bring up the past.
>>
>>14. Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve
>immortality.
>>
>>15. Be gentle with the earth.
>>
>>16. Once a year, go someplace you've never been
>before.
>>
>>17. Remember that the best relationship is one in
>which your love for
>>each other exceeds your need for each other.
>>
>>18. Judge your success by what you had to give up in
>order to get it.
>>
>>19. Approach love and golf with reckless abandon.
>>
posted on January 3, 2001 05:52:41 PM new
Someone named dcj is looking for me? Is he (are you) the persom who wrote a poem for Very Modern?
I think my story is excruciatingly revealed in this thread...from recovering drunk to really liking my pet fish....more than anyone on earth needs or should want to know about me!
posted on January 3, 2001 05:54:03 PM new
toke - I had another thought.
You stated you have been bothered by this for 6 years..
Sounds to me like you are about to get liberated from your home problem to your great shock. I think you leave the court (winning) and your are free from this problem.
But get this toke.
You may move anyway.
There.
It came together.
I will be the uranian "mailman".
Here is your mail, and now I am gone.
posted on January 4, 2001 04:59:54 AM new
Junquemama, thank you for finding those threads. I went and read them, and had some good laughs.
VM, thank you for the latest instalment. That made things clearer. Did you say that the Uranus transit is just starting? OK, that doesn't explain previous events then. Hmmmm. Actually, the last 6 or 7 years have taken me some places that I would never have expected to go. That Pisces was certainly someone I would never have imagined I could even be friends with much less anything else. So if it's going to get weirder than that, I'm not sure if I like that idea. He has NOT been good for me, although I must say the ride hasn't been boring.
Eve, yes Dcj is the poet, but she's a she. After reading more of your chart from then and now, I think I like you. No, not in that way, I'm a woman too. But we seem to have quite a bit in common (both bulls to start). Unfortunately, I'm the overweight bull that VM mentioned, so I have to hate you for your svelte appearance!! LOL
If you'd like to chat sometime, you can email me here at [email protected] at least for the time being.
Snarky
(grrrr, spelling)
[ edited by snarky on Jan 4, 2001 05:05 AM ]
posted on January 4, 2001 05:16:07 AM new
Actually snarky - it is *continuing* not starting, although you are on the brink of it really hotting up.
On the overweight, I did not go back and read but perhaps I told the story of the Taurus in Mexico sucking on that gal's toes. Is that it? Anyway, I don't know how overweight you are but I do know that your appearance is due to be revolutionized, and it will be verrry fast. Like one of those shocking before and after weight loss pics, and oh yeah. When you get to your new land, you don't go back.
Think this can't happen?
Think again.
It happens every day. People break out.
posted on January 4, 2001 09:04:17 AM new
snarky, if the Pisces does not make you happy then I am sure you will be leaving him shortly.
You will be free to experiment with what makes you happy in relationship.
Aren't sure what you want?
That is why this period is upon you.
I have lived through this transit, but backwards.
You - T Uranus in the 7th, N Uranus in the 1st
Me T Uranus in the 1st, N Uranus in the 7th.
The result is similar, your relationships are revolutionary for you (and the other) and in the end you discover (via experimentation) what is right for you, both who you should partner with and what kind of partner you will be. Suffice to say I am different kind of partner today than I was 6 or 8 years ago or whatever.
Here is a gross example.
I am an astrologer, this is static so during my transit I experimented by literally wearing specific clothing (my appearance) and seeing who I attracted (the partner).
Yes.
I had a gold (still do!) jacket and every time I wore it I was swamped with Gemini's and Leos.
All black?
Scorpio, and Taurus
I could attract Pisces too. I had this Calvin Klein fatigue get-up and I would put that on and some boots and they would swim over..
Libra? They went for this long flowy "nice piece of fabric dress I have.
Aries? SHORT SKIRT and PUMPS.
Capricorn? Dark suit, slight suggestion of sex - a little slit in the skirt, but nothing too short.
LOL!
This was fun.
Here is a more subtle example that is also gross.
Uranus is humanitarian, also loves to shock. Hates racism. Truly hates it.
So my two week marriage?
I married this guy in part to piss of his daddy. (He was fire rising, and ALL fire rising have a rebel against daddy thing going).
See, he was from a very VERY waspy family who freaked when they saw me.
They were called me the N word and stuff, it was very very painful.
God does it ever hurt. I swoon at the memory.
Now I could have walked away, but this also pissed me off and so decided that there was no way I was not going to marry this guy if just to make surrrrrrrre his family was "penetrated". See, I actually married for a social cause. Subconscious to some extent, but still very real.
Now I was married a few days and had one of those Aquarian mailmen show up.
This was an African guy I new from the gym and he calls me up and says "XXXX, you are never gonna be happy with that guy." He elaborated.
Now I ask you, who the hell wants to hear THAT 3 days after their wedding?
Of course he was right, and I knew if for sure a week later when my husband said "why can't you just wear suntan pantyhose like everybody else?" (Never mind the night he met me I was wearing a gold hat and royal blue tights, etc.)
I asked myself "should I stay 3 years and make this look okay on paper or do I bolt?"
I divorced.
Okay, so where is Uranus in here?
The fast, the experiment, the breaking of social boundaries, the rebellion. This was a hell of an experience but I never bothered with a waspy man again. I have also never since been an instrument used to piss off Daddy because of my color. I could go on and on and on and on - but the bottom line snarky - is that you will try everything and because of this, when the exact right model for you shows up - you will be sure.
posted on January 4, 2001 10:35:00 AM new
Good afternoon VeryModern.I have to fess up.
Remember this?
Something good is in the air,Hope it beneifits everyone.Just a feel.
The next day,Found out all my things sold that didnt even get noticed before Xmas.All,Everything,56 pieces of jewelry
(wholesale to a dealer)It was a nice surprize.The money indicator wasnt working.
(itchy right palm.)
VeryModern,How sad, some people are to each other.Got anyone you want me to beat up?
posted on January 4, 2001 11:00:33 AM new
VeryModern, once again you have explained things very clearly! I am going to print that out and send it to my friend that had a 2 month preemie at the same time I was having kids. We have wondered about that for years.
Congratulations Junque, on your great sales!
This is so interesting about everyone I can't stop reading. I'll have to get some of those suggested books and read up.
posted on January 4, 2001 11:26:20 AM new
rawbunzel - yes! The universe is not screwing up here, not ever, that is why you can trust it. You have the exact right kids, they are helping you grow, and everyone else around them while they grow themselves.
Win, win, win, win, win!
This is one of my sister's view of life.
She is a dancer choreographer (Pisces btw) and so...
She feels we are all part of a ballet here. A big one, with many acts.
She adds that some people dance better than others
Every once in awhile there is a collision.
The joke here is "hopefully you are not in your car"
Okay, so two people collide and they have an exchange. She says maybe they have "short karma" maybe they have "long karma". What she means is that maybe they just say "scuse me" and dance on, or perhaps they go off and dance together for awhile, or even a long while or perhaps the rest of their life, or "lives" if we have them.
Point is that everyone we meet is not necessarily supposed to hang around. They have another part to dance other side of the stage. They may be Aquarian mailmen, stop, drop and on their way.
Many people have trouble letting people go - but this is a very good ability to hone, for obvious reasons.
Now your kids qualify "long karma" non doubt about that. You will be dancing a long long while so learn to step with them - and teach them to step with you. That would be considered "dancing well" and when they spin off let 'em go because they have to dance their part.
posted on January 4, 2001 11:55:52 AM new
Yes, VeryModern, I do have the exact right kids for me! I know they are the reason I married husband number 1 [aquarian]in the first place. Would not have them if I hadn't.
My kids "spun off" quite a while ago. They spin, but they are still close. My daughter, the sag is finally settling down this year after last years trials and tribulations and my son the aries has some promising job opportunities so he is looking good for this year too. They are both grown and living their own lives. They are both great human beings. I like them a lot as well as love them.
My sister [the one thats not a leo] is a pisces,so is my mother! Neither of them has as interesting a take on life as your sister.
My mother who was divorced from my father [aquarius] 40 years ago still holds a grudge and calls him "you know who" [and we are still not suposed to go see him-considered traitors you know - I don't but have my own reasons-there's that wound you wrote of] my sister the pisces, sides with my dad and gets mad at any of us who say a bad thing about my him.My brother [aries] doesn't seem to like anyone in the family. Strange bunch we are.About like every other family! Wish we'd been strange in a more interesting way.
Believe it or not I am the light hearted one in the family! LOL!
posted on January 4, 2001 12:51:42 PM new
VM: Question: After reading your responce to rawbunz, I am a bit concerned that you haven't answered my 'match' question. If you are not answering because it is 'bad news', please let me know because it might actually help me in a decision I'm facing.
HOWEVER, If I've overstepped please excuse me. I am really thrilled to death with what you've already taken the time to do as was hesitant about asking another favor anyway. The only reason I bring it up is because it has been nagging at me the last couple of days.
posted on January 4, 2001 01:03:04 PM new
lotsafuzz - worry not.
Your post with the data has a red highlight on in my Eudora which means I am supposed to look at it - it hasn't been done.
I got the impression (mostly from you asking for two comparisons ) that these relationships were very casual and not of high priority.
Is that wrong?
posted on January 4, 2001 02:57:29 PM new
Okay - there is also considerable compatibility between you and option B - but I can see a few areas kind of dicey it the relationship is given time to mature.
They - Scorpio rising, Leo Sun, Libra Moon
There is a MOON problem on both ends.
Your Uranus aspects their Moon.
Their Mars aspects your Moon.
Now you have an Aquarius Moon and so may like the heat Mars provides. Constantly stirring your emotions which is somewhat incongruent with the Moons nature, but maybe you like it. Your emotions are "infused".
On the flip side your Uranus aspects their Moon constantly jolting the moon which in this case in Libra wanting peace and balance and in the 12th house - can you say "drift away..". Neither of these energies are going to take kindly to being plugged into an electrical outlet (over time) and so I dunno.
Now you are also lacking Jupiter. Their Jupiter is in Scorpio, an energy you lack for the most part and so when they get pissed off at you there is nothing forgiving to bring them back.
Flip side, you have Jupiter in Aries which they lack although there is a trine to the Leo Sun. All this really means though, is that you would be more forgiving with them than they are with you.
Now the real problems start if "marriage" is an idea here, because you both have wildly different ideas of how one of those ought to be constructed.
You have an Aquarius Moon in the 7th.
Because your Moon (satisfy your Moon) is in the 7th house marriage / partnerships you are always out there looking. You have an emotional need for one. Problem is that Aquarius is notoriously noncommittal, and so you suffer something akin to what I do. HAVE to be a relationship and then HAVE to get out of it.
Have fun.
Flip side, their 7th house has Saturn in it which wants to get the PAPER. Saturn does things by the book, so you see, one of you has to make a supreme sacrifice... This person takes partnership SERIOUS. Remember mouseslayer? Saturn in Taurus. When Venus is tied to Saturn people marry.
Okay - on the upside Gem and Leo of course adore each other.
You both have a strong 9th house and so would share a love of travel, blah blah blah blah..
Now I don't even know if this is a prospective marriage but junque get this...
There is a little astro book out there, about 30 years old, just about 20 pages long and this gal (can't recall her name - my books are packed at the moment) asserts that there will be no marriage if you cannot make a tie between the ascendents and their rulers.
Very interesting theory and although I have never heard it repeated in astro circles - she is batting 100% by my sample which is taken over 10 years, so this is a good bit to know.
The RULER of the ascendent or descendent MUST be placed in the same sign as person B's ascendent or decendent or the same sign as the RULER.
Did you get that?
If this is not present, there is not enough going to really pair the people off. Not that I understand this fully, or can explain it.
Like this.
Lotsafuzz #2 pal's chart has Scorpio acsendent with ruler MARS in AQUARIUS
Lotsafuzz has Aquarius descendent.
OR, the rawbunzels..
Rawbunzel's dh has Pisces descendent, ruler JUPITER in LEO
Rawbunzel has Leo ascendent
AND
Rawbunzel has Leo ascendent, ruler SUN in VIRGO
Rawbunzel's dh have Virgo ascendent
See how it goes junque.
Very cool trick.
[b]Rawbunzel's [/b[ - see you have a double whammy and that's how you two committment -phobes got caught - lol!
The more I study, the more I rely on the houses, not the signs and the rulers of the houses.
anyway lotsafuzz - there you go.
Good luck and have fun!
posted on January 4, 2001 03:39:50 PM new
lotsafuzz - their saturn is also in Gemini conjunct your sun.
Upside?
Relationship "glue"
Downside?
They weigh heavy on your Sun (esp. Gem who want to flit).
Always pressure to grow up and what not, it is a very heavy energy to live with someone who has their Saturn crimping your Sun.
A square is even worse.
In fact a square from someone's Saturn to my Sun (and Moon because they are conjunct) is basically unbearable to me. It is like hanging an anchor around your neck. Very hard to laugh with them around. You laugh or shine - live your Sun, and as a result - they hurt.
I say "no thank you" to that.
What I am trying to say is that if you spent extended time with this person you would be thinking "GET OFF ME" before long. Hard to breathe. You are too airy to like it much..
posted on January 4, 2001 04:03:07 PM new
lotsafuzz- I am writing on both of these as if you are an adult, and the other is an adult and this is a potential (and optional) romantic relationship.
If the scenario is different, I would use a different lens.
I am fairly uncomfortable now, for example I would not want to be writing about sexual compatibility and come to find out this is your kid or your mother or something, so pleeease help me out.
You can email privately,.
Thanks
posted on January 4, 2001 04:33:04 PM new
Hi VeryModern -
What do the 'stars' say about this: A relationship involving a 46 y/o Aries female and a 66 y/o Taurus male?? (i have a feeling i already know) ....... And once again I really appreciate all that you do here!
posted on January 4, 2001 04:38:59 PM new
oh gawd bobbi - that's math!
Could you please mail the birthdays or at least the year.
It is easier for me to type this then to try to subtract.
If I do, I have to repeat 3 times and still am only marginally sure I have the number right!
[email protected]
posted on January 4, 2001 05:46:00 PM new
Okay bobbi - thanks for doing the math
This Taur guy possibly has a Aries Moon himself (cannot be sure - no birthtime, but if he was born earlier than about 2 PM this is the case) and so in spite of being a Taurus love God, his Aries Moon is drawn to Aries Sun.
The first thing I see for sure though is that his Uranus is exactly conjunct your Venus and so "instant love/attraction". Be warned that it does not have staying power unless other ties bind, but if a relationship does form and this aspect exists between the two people - they will never be bored, and both people will break out of their respective "ruts" on the love front - this thing is cutting edge.
btw - this also accounts for the age difference here too. Uranus hates ageism as much as racism.
The second thing I see is that his VENUS is at 5 Aries exactly conjunct your Aries Moon - verrrrrry nice aspect to have between charts.
3rd - Your Virgo rising is a EASY match with Taurus. I would go as far as to say the easiest in the zodiac.
4th - I see a tight "sextile (easy aspect) from his Saturn in Aquarius to your Venus and Mars, which means he can hold on to you but it does not hurt, you can still breathe.
I see Neptune in Virgo on your ascendent which means he *may* be hiding something from you.
I see very good aspects from Mars to various planets in your charts in both directions.
posted on January 4, 2001 05:55:21 PM new
Thanks once again VeryModern - You are so kind to take the time to do all this! I almost swallowed my tongue when I read the "might be hiding something" part - I've been trying to figure this out for about a year now....I really *feel* that there's something that is definitely being kept from me - and I've even been contemplating doing a little investigation on my own but just don't know where to start.
Since my recent chubbies I've been wearing baggy, long stuff to preserve those fantasies...