posted on January 2, 2001 11:18:28 AM new
Geez, I was just trying to show Kitsch where character comes from, for me, anyway. Yes all of this is in my past. Today, well, how 'bout you help me with the wording of a personal ad, and I post it on the internet? I have done this before, but posted it in the city (Santa Barbara) where I WANT to live, not where I am currently rotting away...did I mention I despise NM? Please, no offense to native NM's, it just is not my home!)
How do you make unemployed unhappy, bitter dried up old trout come out sexy in an ad? Willing to relocate! Would make a perfect house-wife if no kiddies are involved! Loves to be left alone! Baby, I'm the one for you!
posted on January 2, 2001 11:32:26 AM new
rawbunzel - it is still coming. It is a big long post so have to gather the energy. You guys be okay though (you and dh) so meantime talk amongst yourselves.
That is supposed to be joke.
The two of you are both outrageously chatty, I expect this is a very easy chore.
(junque - between them 11 planets in mutable signs and rawhusband has a packed 9th house to boot. This is what I call talk worth talking about )
snarky - Leo rising, Scorpio Moon, Taurus Sun.
Have we been on a date?
Just kidding, but your chart is familiar like that to me.
Quick answer to your question.
Reason you hang with Pisces?
You have Jupiter in Pisces so you like them.
Reason you become frustrated with them?
Two of them.
First you have the 10th house "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" thing going and intermittently think this is what Pisces needs to do, like yesterday, and second you can a Leo rising (FIRE) which wonders why people just don't get up and act.
All good and well, but you also have a Moon Neptune conjunction (in Scorpio no less) and so you know the answer to that question, (why they do not hit the ground running) and oh yeah - Pisces and Scorpio are a famous match.
The answer here then, is that you are frustrated with yourself, right?
Leo wants to go be seen and do things but sometimes Scorpio takes the wheel and instead of going public, goes places you will not even cop to
Then Taur Sun in the 10th who wants to makes some bucks (more than a few) FIRES both flashy Leo and Scorpio moon and uses the vehicle (you) for it's own agenda which is a drive to get enough money to buy comfort and security - but by God, it does not stop there.
Square from Uranus to the Sun tell the Taurus Sun in the 10th who wants to conform, to go ahead, but please be warned that you will be disrupted on a predictable but unpredictable basis. and watched with nothing but detached amusement at the chaos.
Are we crazy yet?
Okay - all this (fixed signs) is currently being T by Uranus and here comes the Aquarian "mailmen" (this is from the last thread) to give you info like I am doing now which you will not be able to put to full use for 7 years or so, but liberation - I swear that is what is happening.
Did I say "quick answer?"
Sorry about that.
Really. You are a great person. My kind of person.
Integrity? - present
Drama? - present
Sex? - present
Honest? - present
Emotional IQ? - present
Eccentric (apologies to the 10th house sun) - present.
I could keep listing you know.
Bottom line, you rock, but don't expect the all bells to stop ringing from various corners any time soon, and yes. Hang with the fishes, they inspire you. Then go eat (to ground) or not eat (hi to the Scorpio Moon) and then start again tomorrow
posted on January 2, 2001 11:33:21 AM new
I have read and re-read what you wrote to me last might VeryModern. One thing I sense is that you do not like being the bearer of the negative side of this. You did not make my chart, you only translated it in a way I can understand.I am happy to have this understanding as it helps me to see things in a larger way. Like, it isn't just my little world and me causing these upheavals it is the universe as well and sometimes I just have to accept what is happening and know I cannot fix it. Just ride it out. This is a good thing for me to know because I am a "fixer".
It is nice to know that my DH and I dodged a bullet or two. Somehow that makes the trouble of the last year seem worth it...we are still here! I don't mind plodding along for awhile longer.
Anyway, Please do not feel like you have to appologize for either the message or the delay in giving it. I think if I had sent you my husbands chart and it would have made you throw up it would surely have been more information than I could have handled at that time.So you did the right thing! I'll bet you usually do.
Good news or bad I find this endlessly fascinating!Thank you, Verymodern for sharing this wonderful gift.
posted on January 2, 2001 11:44:15 AM new
LOL VeryModern! Missed your post while I was busy posting! DH and I are a chatty pair! I always have been chatty [used to get in big trouble for that in school] and hubby is just as bad. We talk about everything.Kind of nice. Unfortunatly DH can talk to everyone anytime and sometimes it is hard to get him out of a store! Your joke was right on.
Even59, Maybe you should look into finding a nice Alaskan fisherman. I live in the Pacific NW and a lot of women love being married to them because they are gone fishing 6 months of the year and then when they get home they have lots of money and lots of lovin' . Then just when you are tired of having them around they leave again. Plus I am sure they just love trout! JOKE. Something to consider.
posted on January 2, 2001 11:50:39 AM new
Not only is it my "job" to be the balancer here in AW, I have also been known as a match maker, lol. I manage property...I have hooked so many bachelors and bachlorettes living in their apartments, with another one, that I have LOST tenants because they move in together, which means one apartment gomes up empty, then they make babies and need a home, so they eventually move out, which means TWO apartments come up empty So...take this as an idea, Eve. I browse Maui ads often, and ran across this hunk studmuffin that lived in Maui who was looking for some hot sexy lady to run his home (multi millionaire), be hostess to his guests (Big time dude with business contacts from all over) and he said it could "lead into a permanent relationship as in marriage" because he was just too busy to do the bar scene. This was a few years ago, but I have seen those wanted ads many times over there, and wow...wish I was available and secure enough to have answered that ad at that time. So, check out the personals in Santa Barbara (I live about 3 hours from there...I like where I am, but SB is cool, too). Just a thought and an idea, Eve. Cant hurt to try, eh?
edited to add that if you run across that dude in maui, do remember me, and get the guest cottage ready for periodic visits from me as my reward
posted on January 2, 2001 11:52:05 AM new
Eve, I admit you don't belong in NM anymore than I belong in Bronco country LOL, but this does make you easy to locate and surely there is another oddball in your neighborhood.
On the ad, write your own.
This is your job, remember. Not mine. Plus you have Venus in Gem - so you can do this and on that note do it twice.
Put two ads at the same time.
A large percentage of the men answer most any ad and so this is a way to weed out liars.
Do I sound experienced?
I am.
Someone asked me on the gym this weekend if there was a "bronco game today?"
I was on a machine and I could not grasp what they were saying and I kept saying "huh?"
About four times.
I am a little rock and roll deaf, but really I could not believe anyone would be asking "me" *that*.
I had to answer "I did not even know it was football season." which got me a look of complete disgust.
It is football season, right?
Okay, so my husband is a red haired taur which is weird on it's face, but when he first got here from NY, he was in a Chinese restaurant after a show (kind of late) eating with a large group.
So they served everyone and got to him and told him they were out of rice.
Yes. A Chinese restaurant, out of rice. He went berserk.
Now he is no hothead, but being from NY this was just too hickish for him to fathom, plus he tells me he was hungry, and he is a Taurus and they like their food.
Anyway - he lays into the waiter and he is in BOULDER COLORADO which is kind of on rasta time and everyone is flabbergasted at this loud abrasive Brooklyn accent.
What the hell is my point?
My point is that I would have grabbed this guy in 2 seconds had I been there that night. I would have been thinking "yum". He says he had to slink out of town...
There is someone out there Eve.
Go to Digital city whereever in NM.
You are wasting your time in SB. Remember. You are serious now.
Plan to put in 3 or 4 ads a week, anon of course.
The new listing gets the hits, see.. New to the market and all. Can you tell I worked in sales : )
You will be busy.
posted on January 2, 2001 12:13:33 PM new
As soon as I can figure out how to pack 2 dogs and 3 goldfish (I still have the afore mentioned goldfish, Feo from my days of living in Paradise in Tiburon CA) I am getting the bleep outa NM! My dad lives in Santa Barbara, one reason I chose it, that and the fact that it is my idea of Paradise, also. But we can't figure out a way around my animal problem. I guess I should look at socializing here but...MAN I don't like it here! (Hey VM, you know I'm a native Coloradoan, right? Go Broncs...and take the Nuggets with you!)
Not to put too fine a point on it, but "getting men in bed" has never been the problem. I pretty much just have to clear my throat, and I have them lined up. But I don't want or need that kind of attention anymore, been with hundreds and hundreds of men, physically. The result...I know that isn't what works. The classic emptiness like no other. Since I've been sober, naturally my behavior is a bit more reserved.
posted on January 2, 2001 12:29:51 PM new
Thanks rawbunzel, and you know terrible things are not happening to you - you are having your life is all, and it is good to be above ground.
Typically people show up to an astrologer with data in hand, virgin no less and dream that the "seer" is going to put up their never before viewed chart and say "oh my! You are winning the lottery on Thursday! Lots like there are two of them! You get 20 million and then the man/woman of your dreams!"
Of course, this is not happening to virtually anyone and if it does, various problems will ensue - but we do get a life, and it is *ours* and that is a very special, even sacred thing.
posted on January 2, 2001 12:30:48 PM new
Alaskan fishermen sound hunky, don't they?
Well, I will try another ad, it just seems everyone is looking for the ultimate perfect human being, and that surely doesn't exist.
OK I did sell about $5500.00 worth of my Dad's stuff on eBay in December, so I guess I can say I am employed. I'm on call with catering company, but have only worked 2 events. I think leaving for 2 1/2 weeks to Santa Barbara and not telling the agency got me knocked off the prime gigs! Don't really care, tho, that kind of work is back breaking anyway. So, I am employed! What a shock!
I'm still gonna put the ad in CA tho...and maybe here in NM.
posted on January 2, 2001 12:40:29 PM neweven59 - I just now tuned into this thread and skipped straight to the last page.
How do you make unemployed unhappy, bitter dried up old trout come out sexy in an ad? Willing to relocate! Would make a perfect house-wife if no kiddies are involved! Loves to be left alone! Baby, I'm the one for you!
First, LOL!
Second, I once ran a personal ad and went out of my way to try and describe myself accurately, in the limited amount of space available, without trying to exaggerate or make myself sound more exciting than reality would reveal. I got tons of responses, and one person actually said he answered the ad because it didn't sound like I was trying to build myself up. I figure honesty right up front is best.
If I were you I'd move to SB first and then start looking for someone to date, whether it's through an ad or otherwise. Otherwise you'll just end up with a weird long-distance relationship which you can't judge in real life. Besides, getting yourself established in a new life first is way more important than bringing a new guy into the picture. You know, Step 1, Step 2....
NM isn't that far from CA. Rent a U-Haul, put the goldfish in a covered bowl so they don't slosh out, and the dogs can ride in front. Two days of driving and you're there! Some motels take dogs, so the dogs and the fish can sleep with you during one night on the road. Apartment hunt during a weekend beforehand and you'll be all set up in advance.
By the way, after dating a guy from the personal ads for almost a year, I met a guy at work who I later married. You just never know where they're gonna crop up!
posted on January 2, 2001 12:47:58 PM new
Yeah, what rainybear said. You need to be happy where you ARE, and NM isnt it obviously. Hie your hiney to SB, then put an ad in. Once YOU are happy in your environement, then do the searching. Wish I knew some apartment managers there, but I dont. I know of some in Oxnard/ventura though, which is about an hour away, but you dont wanna live in Oxnard. SB is the place to be! Your dogs and fish will make it fine...just load em up and move em out
posted on January 2, 2001 12:54:39 PM new
You guyz are great! Just love you all to pieces, I do!
I love just saying the word "oxnard" is it not THEE funniest word ever????!!!!
I love the climate, adorable men, and the chance sighting of a celeb that always comes along in SB! Yes, I am a bit trivial...do love those celeb sightings!
Hope I didn't sound conceited, WAY in the past I had a fair amount of physical attraction in the eyes of a few men.
posted on January 2, 2001 12:57:57 PM newHope I didn't sound conceited, WAY in the past I had a fair amount of physical attraction in the eyes of a few men.
Nah, if you've got it, shout it from the rooftops! And I'd be willing to bet you still have it.
posted on January 2, 2001 01:02:47 PM new
I hated it in Oxnard because I hated saying the name, lol. And Santa Barbara is way cool, with lots of celebs. Heck, Malibu is THE place...but expensive, even for a studio apartment (way more than even Lahaina, Maui!). Personally, SB is too big for me now...I love where I am (San Luis Obispo area). Like SB, but much much smaller. For short, we call our town SLO town, because it is, literally and figuratively, lol. Anyway...you go girl! Plan it, do it. Its your new years resolution, to get to sunny SB and the studmuffins waiting for ya
posted on January 2, 2001 01:09:33 PM new
San Luis Obispo is fabulous! GAWD! The CA coast! With the possible exception of that one crappy cold northern coastal town by Daly City, there is no where greater in the world!
I wish you guys could have read some of the replys I got from my first ad in [email protected] the gamut of poetry to just plain perverted to sincere and achingly needy!
If I do it again, I will let youALL see the replys!
But of course, whomever it was that said to me "first things first" makes more actual sense....so I better get my booty out ot gorgeous SB!!!!
posted on January 2, 2001 01:18:06 PM new
RainyBear! That's who it was! (to do first things first)
Oh man, you shoulda seen me traveling with Feo (Spanish for ugly, but he's really very guapo!)) the first time...his little plastic bowl sprang a leak but luckily my Dad's favorite "tool" in the world was still in my trunk. Tha't right...Duct tape! So I taped up his house and made it to a motel, put him house and all in the bath tub....the whole way from CA to CO was over cast so he didn't boil...my car had no AC...I love my little fishyy...who is now about 10"long and lives in a 50 gallon tank by (Her) self...he's a she. according to this weird fish guy my brother knows.
posted on January 2, 2001 01:21:43 PM new
I started a new thread, for folks to post pics of places they live. Yes, I do love SLO town. Love santa barbara too. Only bummer here is there are oodles of starbucks, but NO Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, which makes the BEST iced mochas!! Can order them and make them at home, but the fun is to people watch while savoring an CB&TL mocha, yes?
posted on January 2, 2001 01:29:04 PM new
I'll post a picture of my apartment in Tiburon, (a small Feo is in the background) This apartment represents EVERYTHING I love, excepth there isn't a man in it, and I could only have the "lesser" animals as pets, no dogs or cats. So I had an African bull frog, an iguana, Feo, 2 rtas named Jasmine and Junior, 2 dwarf Siberian hamsters that turned into thousnads of cute little dwarf Siberian hamsters...about 60 houseplants, all flowering, of course.
Anyhoo, I will scan a pic or two of my favorite apartment. OH GAWD! The veiw! I could see about 1/2" of the GG Bridge! Fabulous!
posted on January 2, 2001 02:25:53 PM new
I saaw your pics of the apartment, Eve (thanks to pattaylor, thanks!). I will post some of my apartment complex later, but right now Im on the way to the dentist (lucky me). You sound like me, Eve...lots of animals and life around me, via pets and plants. My apartment is full of greenery. Unfortunately, the place is full of males too...hubby, stepson, dogs (2) are male and so is the cat. The rat died, and he was male. The birds passed on too, and they were male. Doomed, I guess. Grass is always greener on the other side, eh? Im the only female. Wanna trade places?
posted on January 2, 2001 02:34:04 PM new
rawbunzel and raw's man - where to start?
Hell yes he can talk to anyone. and talk and talk and talk and talk.
He is a Gemini Sun conjunct Uranus and Venus in the 9th house.
He is a Virgo rising with a Virgo Moon
All of this is MUTABLE. The mutable signs are the communicators of the zodiac.
They relay information.
Tossing Uranus in with the Sun gives an Aquarian feel. (Aquarian / Uranus refresher course - innovative, odd, ahead of their time, eccentric, future oriented, detached, humanitarian, social, experimental, loves to shock)
Tossing Venus in with Uranus gives person who wants a relationship that is revolutionary. They do not marry the girl next door, in fact the prefer not to marry (at least not for long!), and when they do, it is their best friend, and hopefully someone outside the norm from their perspective of course.
Now rawbunzel - this is something both of you share. You are as bad as him. Peas in a pod. This why you waited 8 years to get married and also why you wonder if you should have.
Please understand, it was no mistake - it has nothing to do with problems you may be having. it goes like this.
First you both are Virgos which just plain strain under contracts of any kind.
A Virgo will work through the night for a year for someone but as soon as they are "signed on" they freak and want out.
Second, he has Venus and Uranus conjunct in the 9th (Sag freedom house) and so he is a wild horse.
However --- you have Uranus ruling your 7th house (love partner) and so you also are not not chomping on the bit to sign on yourself.
What I bet happened here is that Saturn went through Pisces (his 7th house) hit all this Virgo you guys have, and you felt compelled to get "legitimized".
Nothing wrong with that, but I would not hang the paper on the wall because though you want to be together, the constant reminder of the paper brings no benefit.
If I sound judgmental - I am not. I have this myself - 7th house Uranus and as I said way back in this thread, every time I get the paper I start to "buck". I will probably have to actually marry my husband myself some day but to be honest, I surely hope not because it will not do me any good, and in turn, it will not do him any good. IOW, I hope I blink and 20 years go by and here we are w/o a certificate. Goldie Hawn Kurt Russell style. I will do it if I have to for some reason, but please please please no.
Alright, he only has one square in his chart, and guess what?
It is the same wound as you have Saturn to the Moon.
It is the same and it is different.
You have the conjunction which is a very personal ouch that comes from no where but inside you.
He has the square which gives him a bit more distance. Not a lot, but some. He is still in control of how much pain he feels, however he can have the illusion at times that an outside force is causing the problem, if that makes sense, and so this is less personal than what you cope with. "Look what my mother did / is doing" as opposed to "my mother did ____ and now I feel like crap and the problem is *inside* me".
Now here is one of the places it gets interesting when you look at your charts together.
360 degrees in a circle / the zodiac. 30 degrees to a sign
His Moon is at 29 Virgo, and his Neptune 2 degrees away, next sign 1 degree Libra
Then you come in - Saturn at 2 Libra, and your Moon also at 2 Libra.
What you have here is the common PAIN isolated to 3 stinkin' degrees!
Now needless to say, when a planet in the sky comes to these degrees, or makes an angle (square oppostions, etc) both of you are going to ache.
More later, I am out of time. For the record, this puts him on the same schedule as you regarding 2008. I just want to get that in before I move along and forget it. 2008 ish is when T PLuto will square late Virgo and early degrees of Libra.
posted on January 2, 2001 04:09:27 PM new
VeryModern, Is it weird that my DH and I have so much in common in our charts? Some of this is making me laugh out loud!You could not be more right about his reaction to "the ties that bind" and mine too! LOL! You are right on I think about the pain thing and the way we express it. I know he has a wound but hates to admit it. According to him he led an idyllic life [well, up until he met me!]
posted on January 2, 2001 04:34:43 PM new
rawbunzel - your husband's idyllic life computes in a way.
As I said, this is the only square in his chart, and he has NEPTUNE smack on top of the problem which does a marvelous job of obscuring things.
This is what I referenced a ways back. That his Neptune soothed your Moon Saturn just by fuzzing it out some. His own too.
This is what Pisces (the people) do btw.
You are feeling like hell and a Pisces comes over and confuses you and you forget what the big problem is / was. It is like they have this fairy dust that makes things better.
But also, for the record, no double Virgo has an idyllic life. His Sun in the happy 9th and all his Leo (he has Leo Mars Pluto conjunction smack on you ascendent - another huge tie)in the 11th may be having a great time, but the Virgo has to work like a dawg!
On the marriage thing - I so relate. I stood there at both my weddings - sinking feeling, and walked out with a dirge playing in my head. I never really had one hour happy *married*. That's the truth, and it wasn't the men. It was just that I ******hated***** it. Utterly and totally every single day. Oh the exhilaration when I divorced was indescribable.
Twice.
Now I have the man, the ring, and no paper which is exactly what I have always wanted.
If I have to marry again, I will toss the paper in the first trash can I pass. That's no kidding. I mean no disrespect, and I am utterly loyal, it is just that it makes me heave, and I am old enough now that I don't do things to please other people.
posted on January 2, 2001 04:52:47 PM new
rawbunzel - it is *not* uncommon that you have planets in close aspect. These are the pick up points between people.
Your husband is so mutable that he is truly odd before you even enter the picture
(he likes reading this btw. He does not want to be special either - he wants to "odd".
Now you come along and throw your Virgo into the mix and now there is so much talking and changing it is a marvel.
Okay - my husband is FIXED. He eats the same cereal now as he did when he was 6. (Raison Bran).
As a mater of fact, (from another thread) he has the same frames for his glasses that he had since 5th grade or something - we are talking 30 years.
It is people like him that keep "brands" popular. They are brand loyal - they keep buying Cheerios for example and when they come out with "Honey Nut Cheerios" they would never even think to try it. If you force them, they will put some in their mouth, frown and say "I like the regular". They find a vacation spot they like (if they have some sag and travel at all) and they go back and back and back to the same hotel even.
You and your husband are the opposite.
You are the people who look for a new smell of shampoo every week. You try every new restaurant, you want constant change and new stimulation. Marketers have caught onto you people and so keep it comin'. This week's line extension. Doritos, Nacho Doritos, Cool Ranch Doritos, Salsa Doritos, Green Chile Doritos, etc. etc, and you will try and buy 'em all. Your husband more than you, but you too.
posted on January 2, 2001 05:55:32 PM new
ARGH at AW!! I think it must be Pisces too. It keeps pushing me away, won't let me log in without a really big hassle and many tries.
Hi Kelz, you're welcome. Any time you want a yelling at (or chearing section, or someone to rant to) you know where to find me. LOL! Yes, you ARE cool.
VM, when I mentioned Kel's "stubbornness", I was referring to her refusal to believe or see those good characteristics in herself that the rest of us can see and keep telling her about.
I've been trying to wrap my mind around what you've told me so far. (And I've got to try to find the previous thread to figure out the reference there.) "Are we crazy yet?" You betcha! I think that one of the reasons they frustrate me so, is because the way they deal (or don't deal) with their emotions is SO foreign to me. I want to help them address the issues, they want to pretend they don't exist. I don't know if this is in their astrological charts, or their pyschological "charts", so may only apply to the main Pisces' that I happened to get mixed up with.
VM, your husband sounds like MY kind of man! LOL
(edited for spelling!!!!)
[ edited by snarky on Jan 2, 2001 06:04 PM ]
posted on January 2, 2001 06:04:32 PM new
YES! My husband is ODD and he loves it!
We used to be the kind of people that tried lots of new things but no money has toned that down a bit as has age. My husband is a oatmeal eater for the cholesterol benefits so he pretty much eats the same thing every day. He does ad lots of strande things to it though just to keep it interesting.
Since we have so much similar stuff in our charts does this mean that his finances are WIPEOUT too?
I absoloutly hear what you say about marriage. Even though I am not in the mood for a divorce when I divorced my first husband it was such a relief! I felt so free and had so much fun!
Now here is an example of the way things have been going ..
Today my slightly older sister was diagnosed with Lupus.
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This is you in reserve mode?? LOL!
