posted on January 1, 2001 12:52:12 PM new
Hello VeryModern,
You did my chart back in August so I hate to take up your time now but I really would like to know if this year is going to get any better. The last 6 years have not been good in many ways.Are things going to start looking up soon--ever? Can you even tell this from a chart?
posted on January 1, 2001 03:05:45 PM new
Afternoon junque!
rawbunzel - you asked this last time and I have to admit that I punked out regarding answering your question, and I am sorry.
I had two reasons.
First I had my hands full with some stuff going on behind the scenes during that thread, but the main reason was that I did not have good news back then and I really could not see laying anymore on you. See, I looked at your chart and it just looked so dang ouchy, I did not have the heart to say "relief is *not* around the corner." I was afraid that it could be destructive to you, like a person looking for a line, needing and deserving one, and me tossing an anchor instead.
I just could not do it.
OTOH I felt it would be as grave a disservice to give you some kind of false hope and so I said nothing.
This happened to me one other time with my hair lady who has the "much improved" punk son. She had been through so much with this kid and wanted to know her year ahead and when I looked at her solar return it was clear that she would get relief none all year, and I mean none.
I just couldn't tell her.
Frazzled, menopause, etc, etc, and all she needed was me to say "365 more days, babe". She would have needed a hospital.
See what I mean?
A chat board is not the place for a message that can cause that kind of damage. It would be totally irresponsible. So I said nothing, and I hope you can accept my apology.
I know you have had a rough year and relief is still not "around the corner" (I am sorry) but it is a nearer than it was, and I suspect you are much tougher now than then, so I will have a go.
The slow concentrated way that you have been living will continue. I realize that this is not "good" news, but I am hoping it is "helpful" news in that you can adjust your sites. Kind of like settling in for a long winter. It does no good to sit around Dec 1 and wonder if you can plant a flower in the sun tomorrow.
Now, I am as sorry as the next person that this is the case, but once you accept it, you can start to look around for what you *can* do considering your current climate, and when you do this, this period will begin to be more productive for you. Also, once you settle instead of flailing around looking for an out that is not there, you have a chance to acclimate IOW you get used to it and you begin to find a way to play the cards in your hand.
What do I know for sure?
You are going to have to face and do some things you would rather not.
I do not think you are in for the intense, I would rather be dead type situations you may have had to manage recently. That has in large part moved on, and in it's place looms hard work, but slow and steady progress.
It may help your overall perspective to understand that all the planets in your chart are scrunched together. This means that your trends are prolonged, both easy and difficult periods are never fleeting. To illustrate, I am in the same boat. From the time I was born until I was about 17 people died and died and died and died and died. Perhaps 25 or 30 people in very close proximity. Every time I turned around - another body. I thought this was normal.
Then it stopped and for the next 20 years no one has died.
NO ONE. No one I know. No inlaw, neighbor, associate, etc. etc. NO ONE. A total reprieve. No one I know, knows anyone who died. Not even a neighbor's old neighbor has died. Nada.
Via astrology, I can see for sure that I am heading for another death cycle. All I can do is buckle up and also draw on what I learned last time. It will be an extended run, this is how my life lives and yours is same. You are having prolonged difficulty now- but rawbunzel it will pass.
Okay - yeah, then when?
You will work hard all year.
Not every single stinkin' day, but in general.
Times when the load is lighter should be enjoyed to the hilt - think "dance while you can" because you will not be clear of this until early 2002, when you get a short break, plus things start to shift.
First, mid 2002 major help arrives on the scene in the form of Jupiter - planet of luck fun truth and expanded horizons. He will be with you until 2005, and go a loooong way toward shoring you up. Still though, dance every chance you get because there is another rough patch brief mid 2003, and then wave good bye to Saturn for 7 years, and you are left with a Jupiter transit which should pick you WAAAY up with Saturn off deck. By God, you'll be packed and ready to go, won't you?
What can you expect to gain from this time?
You are gonna hate this (now) but it is the only answer there is.
You are getting wise and you are gaining character. Yes, I know you don't need any more character, or want any more character, but you are getting it anyway so that you can be fabulous a few years out.
Some things don't come easy and you are getting several of these things now.
I will share another example.
1990 or so I walked into a therapists office for a tune up.
I thought I was going there for one little chat.
I was that naive.
I was told 1-3 years but in the end, I went for almost 4 years.
Best thing I ever did, because I am now [fabulous but Rawbunzel - I saw no relief of any kind during that period. Not one day off. From today's perspective I would not only do that again, I would do it again twice, three times, four times or more. Whatever it takes to be here now was the bargain of the century. You may find yourself feeling similar, but it is a few years out.
Hang in.
Faith. The answer to your question is no, it is not always going to be like this. This time is passing, it is passing every day, it is passing now.
If you get a chance to dance tonight - do it.
posted on January 1, 2001 03:40:16 PM new
junque - I am wondering this.
T saturn sq your Moon and Sun and "something good is in the air".
Please tell me more.
In the meantime - here is a little astrology alive.
I was dating this guy who was a fillintheblank...
Okay, okay, I will give it a rest.
Rawbunzel - an afterthought.
Be advised that the same planets (events) that hit your chart (your life) in a difficult way move on to form a trine / easy angle (lift you up, support you) as part of a natural cycle.
This means you will get paid for every single stitch of this. There is no other possibility. Think about how true that is.
posted on January 1, 2001 04:47:01 PM new
Thanks for your candor Verymodern. It hasn't been all bad and I doubt if it will be all bad. I have wondered if my life choices cause these things or maybe it really is "in the stars" and no matter what a person does it will turn out similarly. Seems like things went downhill when I married, which is funny since we lived together for 8 years before we did. Last year was particularly interesting but mostly revolved around my daughter and some problems she had as well as my husband and finances. Really it is more the things and people around me than "ME" if you know what I mean.My life has always seemed to go in seven year cycles so I figured I had at least one more year to go with this one.
Lucky for me I have always been able to find the humor in most everything so I will be alright. Always am. Do wish it would get over with sooner but hey at least there is a small dim light at the end of the tunnel!
Thanks for telling me this, I am glad to know it.I was kind of thinking that this was why you did not answer before.
posted on January 1, 2001 05:24:40 PM new
My husband wants to know if this means his chart would be similar. Will his next few years be as "plodding" shall we say as mine or is it possible for his chart to be completely different?
Also, I think when I gave you my time of birth the first time I told you 3:15, my birth certificate says 3:14. Can one minute make a difference?
posted on January 1, 2001 05:28:42 PM new
This is for the Libra parent with the son who is a Cancer.
You can claim your chart if you want to, I will not id you.
I am sorry but I cannot comment in depth on the charts without birth times.
You most likely have a Pisces Moon like so many others I have wrote about on the board, and the general comments about a Pisces Moon I have made would apply. You are a Libra with Venus in Libra (ruler - super placement) conjunct and together with the Pisces, this says artistic to me - you can create some sort of illusion. Think "dreamy beauty"
Mercury (thinking) and Neptune (nebulous, psychic, Pisces) are conjunct (also in Libra) and so this otherworldly beauty/love theme is repeated, but not knowing the houses it is hard for me to guess how it may manifest. The other thing here is misty, boundry-less Neptune on your Mercury (mind) like that - thoughts drift in from who knows where and out again and in with nebulous messages. This is neither good or bad (who can tell for sure?) but any negative is helped via your Virgo Mars that can work as a moderator to keep you from floating to far out. IOW, your Virgo can see the strings holding the puppets and this is a safeguard.
Regarding you son, again, I have no birth time, but he most certainly has a Scorpio Moon (Cancer Sun). On it's face, this is makes him an exceedingly emotional person, the Scorpio Moon in particular indicating a profoundly deep individual who is prone to brooding some, just as a Pisces is prone to being a little sad which you will be able to readily relate to if your Moon is in fact in Pisces.
As for problems he is having, they are almost certainly tranistory as opposed something that is natal and will last his lifetime, but it is impossible for me to tell you when relief will arrive without a birth time since the Moon moves so quickly throughout the day.
If he is currently coping with depressed feelings, he can expect complete relief by the first week of April. (This goes for ALL the fixed signs - you done paid your dues, watch how much lighter things are post April - it is already happening, WOOHOO!)
OTOH if he is chaotic - this may be longer lasting and I can't tell without knowing the degree of his Moon (via a birth time).
The astrology here is Uranus in Aquarius squaring his Moon (hard aspect) - purpose of liberation as I have written throughout this thread.
In the case of a Scorpio Moon, this is decidedly unpleasant, not only for the individual but anyone around them, especially at such a young age. See - during this time he would be discovering in living color just what's in there (his emotional life) and for Scorpio it ain't all roses and ribbons and stuff. What he has is a deep pool in there and he does not take kindly to someone / something he does not control stirring the pot.
Uranus transits are a huge gift, but they always shock the heck out of the transit-ed, and unless he was born very very early in the morning, (and this transit has already passed) he is coping with this now.
Okay - so it is not that bad.
You can help because your Pisces can commune with Scorpio easy as pie.
Further, just in general his chart is quite nice. He must shock you with his generosity at times for example (junque - Uranus Jupiter conjunct and trine the Sun). Point I am trying to make is his life is not fraught with *anything* crippling or terribly difficult to overcome. He may be a bit intense and heavy at times for you, a massive Libra - but he is what he is and I expect he is going to be very good at that.
One other thing..
The ties between your charts are very tight, and you are able to easily wound each other, so learn to go easy - because this is a permanent relationship, eh?
Wound, ouch, go cold..
Watch out for that and btw you definitely got the right kid from the hospital
posted on January 1, 2001 05:51:46 PM new
Hi rawbunzel - no, 1 minute won't make a difference.
Since you relate to the 7 years, let me spell it out for you. Hey. Knowledge is power.
You have Saturn and your Moon placed literally on top each other in your horoscope. They are exactly conjunct (joined) at the same degree, only 15 minutes apart. This equate to a very soft spot. It is a wound. Nothing bleeding where people see - it is a personal hurt that you live with. Some people have an exterior wound, yours is inside.
Now if you have been following what I have been writing, then you know that when a planet transits the chart you look to where the T planet is placed in the chart to see the "stage". At the moment we are talking about Saturn, and we find it on top you Moon, and so the stage is this very very tender spot.
Okay - so if you can picture all your planets in a row, the transiting planet hits one then the other then the other then the other and various events occur but what gets slammed is your natal Saturn moon conjunction and boy I know - that it throbs.
This is no more complicated than someone who has a bad knee and most the time they forget about it, but when a cold rainy day comes, they can't walk because of the pain. For you, this is a long cold rainy spell.
So the 7 year thing is a Saturn cycle. That is my point. It is actually a 28 year cycle, but 7 yrs to go 90 degrees and hit the angles.
Regarding your husband, absolutely not. You are a person, he is another, your relationship (according to astrology) is a third entity. Send his data if he wants. Everything I have written is personal to you.
One more idea..
If (per chance) you are the type to berate yourself (I would not be surprised) - knock it off. You have an injury that is flaring up and I know for sure that you would offer great care to another in your circumstances - so be good to yourself, ya know?
posted on January 1, 2001 06:12:51 PM new
Thank you Verymodern, you are right berating myself, I will try to stop it. Not an easy habit to break! I believe I know what the "wound" is as well. Something that time can't heal I have to try to overcome it myself but have not been able to yet. Living in Seattle I am well used to cold rainy days, indeed I enjoy them so I will weather what is in store for me. I knew that my Gemini husband was seperate but he asked me to ask, I think he wants to know if my Virgo luck will rub off on him!
I believe I will send his info so that he can be put at ease! LOL!
Really I cannot thank you enough for all this information, it does make things seem clearer.
[ edited by rawbunzel on Jan 1, 2001 06:24 PM ]
posted on January 1, 2001 06:32:09 PM new
okay - for the record rawbunzel - the money thing was not Saturn related.
That was ol pal Pluto that wipes slates clean.
I was trying not to go here, but it is going to be inevitable if this thread keeps up, so here is the info.
Pluto kills.
Sometimes literally, usually figuratively, but make no mistake when you have a Pluto transit, someone, something is going to die and you will find yourself stripped, your decks cleared, etc.
It will burn your "house" down to the ground.
It's purpose is to eliminate anything that is not absolutely essential. Pluto leaves you naked, stripped of everything FLUFFY and as a result you access your core (there is nothing else left) and find your power.
Scorpio's love this, but may not admit it.
Anyway, you have a Sun Venus conjunction in Virgo (at the exact same degree, same situation as your Moon Saturn - rawbunzel, this is an oddity), and T Pluto squared same from Sag.
Okay, Venus = love money and so WIPEOUT on the money.
Sun = your identify and also men - so the obvious here, considering Venus is involved is you husband. WIPEOUT.
To be very candid, an astrologer looking at this transit COMING IN (it has passed) would have probably thought at least 25 if not 50% chance that he would die. See, it is that extreme what you have been through.
Try this hypothetical scenario out next to what actually occurred. This would be the most obvious way this could have went.
~~~ Your husband dies. (can also be the father)
You are enmeshed with him so your identity dies with him.
The death causes a financial crisis of course and so you see you have lost it all.~~~~
I am saying this now to give you a persecutive that is key.
Whatever happened last year should be considered the death of you, your husband, you love, your finances.
Whatever is was is dead dead gone, but you are still standing.
Now this is where the cool part comes in.
You know when a forest burns to the ground? It is bleak, it is nothing but a void, but what you really have is a canvass that has been cleared and boy oh boy when the forest grows back, it is lush beyond belief.
Your garden be weeded, rawbunzel!
This is Pluto, and it's process.
The death, rebirth and in the end, phoenix soaring.
This is the process that has occurred.
Your husband did not die or disappear and so I have to say he is vital to you.
This is the kind of thing I was subtly referencing in the first post up there, about the "wish you could die instead of the intense pain". You two are on the other side of this transit. It will not hit your Sun Venus in this way for another 240 years.
Yes.
You are done. Call it the year you died. Got reasons to celebrate now, and seeds to plant.
posted on January 1, 2001 06:43:48 PM new
VeryModern,Something good in the air,Just a feeling I get,Its physical and mental.When something big and bad happens(major scale)Nervous
stomach,depression,nervous energy,clouds.
Good vibes today are nervous energy,Sun light
Invisable smiles.
Ok,thats it!Lock me up.
posted on January 1, 2001 06:48:00 PM new
one last thing rawbunzel.
T Pluto will hit your Moon Saturn 2008-9.
It is gonna hurt like hell, but this will also be your opportunity to heal that &*$%^ once and for all.
When that time comes, remember this process. Pluto lances boils for the purpose of healing, not to be a p****.
Saturn you have to endure, nose to the grindstone and don't look up. To "endure" a Pluto transit is a waste of a motherlode of rawest more powerful power you can possibly imagine.
I like to equate Pluto transits to Obi Wan Kenobi's line. "Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine."
posted on January 1, 2001 07:00:26 PM new
lol junque - thanks for the interlude.
rawbunzel, I will look at your husbands chart tomorrow. I know he is okay, otherwise he would be dead but I will provide details for your Virgo-ness asap. Plus, I am interested.
posted on January 1, 2001 07:08:26 PM new
All I can say is WOW. I am glad my husband is still alive [although there were times this last year I could have killed him...figurativly not literaly of course!]
No one has physically died and for that I am thankful although my parents are aging so the inevitability of it is there. I too am curious about my husbands chart. Looking forward to tomorrow!
posted on January 1, 2001 07:29:52 PM new
Rawbunzel,If you dont mind me saying this,Been there, done that.It is a learning Experience.And at the time I saw no way out,Not only me,But my mother who had her own buisness.It was over-welming for both of us.We faced each problem one at a time,And there was nothing left,And yet my mother ended up with a home she wanted,The battles
continued and we had more then we began with.Then when it was over,And any ghost from that bad time shows up,I can flick it off,like a piece of lint.Its like the big reward, For a job well done.Not much can touch you afterwards.
posted on January 1, 2001 07:43:20 PM new
oh maaaaan rawbunzel - I am glad I did not see this chart (your husband's) 6 mo ago or whenever it was. I would have probably thrown up.
You guys have reeeealy just dodged a bullet. I will write some more about that if I get some time. "Pluto transits I have lived and witnessed."
Your Sun & Venus @ 10 Virgo
His Sun @ 10 Gemini (plus Uranus @ 9 Gemini)
This means that T Pluto @ 10 Sag squared BOTH of you at the same time.
Anyway, you've a great match. He is Neptune @ 1 Libra - salve for your Moon Saturn for example. He can blur / erase your pain.
Lots of great stuff. I will write on it tomorrow, but wanted to post because he has a Virgo Moon and Rising and so I know he is worried.
Thanks for the great stuff to work with here. G'night again.
posted on January 1, 2001 07:56:06 PM new
All the time that bad things happen, I always await the good days. I've always lived with extremes. I moved once a year and a half growing up. I used to get beat up by my brother every other day but would get protected by him enough to make it all go away. It was tough for a coke bottle eyed kid back then.
Verymodern, I'm back into the coke bottle glasses because my eye problem will no longer be fixed by contacts/ One thing and the only thing you were wrong on. I am once again relegated to the thick lensed ugly crowd.
So nobody looks at me in a state of drunkedness anymore. It is true I relied on my eyes to talk to people. But frankly they cross and they lose all power without my magnified lenses.
Only a special someone will be able to see thru that AND the huge wall I have built with so much care. Frankly I dont want to be seen. Ive lost weight, Ive tried to get out there, but I can't. I just can't.
posted on January 1, 2001 08:07:05 PM new
kitsch1 - that is Saturn in the 7th talkin'.
Remember coda and the idea of not feeling attractive? The 2nd half is fear. Glasses don't make someone ugly, this is your perception.
Saturn - fear, deprivation
7th house - love, beauty.
The glasses have deprived you your vanity. Go back and read coda.
If they really bother you, my first husband had coke bottle glasses from before he was 2 and had that surgery and walked out of the office NO GLASSES for the first time in almost 40 years. Can't afford it? Fine. I guess this guy that is coming is going to pay for it. I told you he brings benevolent.
Anyway - don't sweat it because the universe has a grand plan for sure and you can't stop it. You get a partner and he is just exactly what you need.
posted on January 1, 2001 08:14:33 PM new
Don't want someone to come along and PAY to fix me!
Besides, My left eye is legally blind, when I did have a few extra dollars only one local Doc would touch me.
I don't want to be totally blind. I want someone to ignore my flaw, not make me go thru painful surgery. I dont want someone who wants to see my eyes all day. I want someone willing to see them at night up close and a little crossed.
posted on January 1, 2001 08:27:41 PM new
My good eye is the one needs surgery. The bad one cant be helped. All the time people are saying you have beautiful eyes. It is not true.....if it hurts to read from a book without sunlight. If putting on makeup early in the morning is hard.
I showed a pic once with makeup on my eyes. I had to put it on by sunlight with a magnifying lense.
It gets worse every year but I dont care.
I just want to raise my girls. I dont want to parade boyfriends, I dont want to do anything to hurt them in any way beyond the divorce that has obviously hurt them.
posted on January 1, 2001 08:28:35 PM new
kitsch1 - I did not mean it that way. I mean that you will get what you want (and need). Weight or glasses may be a factor to YOU but not to him. I meant that if glasses bothered *you* he would help you however you need, because he LOVES you.
An excellent partner exists for you. This is shown clearly in your chart and he will arrive, and he will be benevolent and that does NOT mean he will give you things you don't want, it means he will give you things that make your heart sing.
posted on January 1, 2001 09:30:04 PM new
VeryModern, That would be mighty scary if we hadn't gotten past it! Will be even more interested now to see what you have for us tomorrow.I love this stuff,astrology, always have but you put it in a way that is easy to understand so I have gotten more out of reading you than anything prior.You are very good at communicating this to people not in the "trade".
Junquemama, I don't mind at all! I have an odd feeling that I may have been here and done some of this earlier in my life as well.
About 23 years ago. Do you suppose it is possible to go through the exact same kind of cycle over and over again? Feels like that movie "Groundhog Day" sometimes. I know in my heart that what does not kill me makes me strong. I should get huge muscles soon!
Kitsch, Your posts make me sad. I have read your saga for a long time now and you have been a great role model for many. Your life has been difficult but you have persevered and are coming out on top. That is wonderful!
You are a beautiful person! Don't worry about wearing glasses. I have worn glasses since I was 12 and have never been able to wear contacts and it has never interfered with my relationships.[ Except when I was in high school.]
I dated millionaires and playboys ,construction workers and doctors and had a blast doing it too until I settled down with the man I am married to.[too bad he wasn't one of those millionaires! My kids tell everyone that I married for love not money.I think that is nice.] Glasses did not matter to any of them. You will see. People will love you for yourself! Keep that chin up!
posted on January 1, 2001 10:36:52 PM new
AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!
And they say that Taurus is stubborn. Even us Taureans have to give up eventually when we are being pushed away over and over again.
Kelz, you don't have to worry about what people see when they see you with glasses. Trust me, we see a beautiful, and YES, strong, brave, resilient woman. Even without seeing you in person, that shows through. Now, if only YOU could see the truth. If only you could love yourself, it would be much easier for you to accept that someone else could too. You will enchant anyone that you choose to flash those coke-bottle magnified baby-blues at. And then you will break his heart when you look at your next victim. :lol
That wall that you have built around yourself will be the hardest obstacle to see through, not the physical imperfections. And ditto to what Rawbunzel said.
posted on January 1, 2001 10:55:13 PM new
Sorry for my little rant.
Hi everybody. VeryModern, I have been reading (and trying to understand) this thread and enjoying it very much. I agree with what others have said about your gift. It is one thing to come up with the placements of the planets etc, (and there are computer programs that can do that for you) but it's another thing to turn that into a personal reading with insight into the combinations of characteristics. And I enjoy the personal tales of the signs in conflict from your own experiences too.
I'm not a very frequent poster here, and only a part-time lurker. But if you aren't too overwhelmed with requests, would you mind doing my chart too, please? I will send my info to you, and if you are too busy, just delete it. Thank you.
Hopefully you won't fall for the man that can't get past your glasses. That is not a man I would want and hope you wouldn't either.
I am hoping that you wait for that special man that does sees the beauty in all of you. The inside you because it is the pure and perfect beauty that I see. I would not want a man that only chose for the outside and not the inside.
Give yourself a break today Kel and give yourself a hug. You deserve it and I only wish you could see the person I see in you and I think others here do too. You are beautiful Kel. Make no mistake about that.
Have you ever heard the phrase, "you are your own worse enemy"? Sometimes I think we are all guilty of that but you kel transcend all that.
As to the eye make up etc. Well, I wear bifocals and I can tell you that I can't even begin to see anymore. No my eyesight is not as bad as yours. It sounds like the same thing my father went through down to the T and surgery was not an option for him either but Kel, He was a beautiful man from the inside out. I never noticed those glasses or how his eyes crossed or that he was blind in one eye. I really never thought about it until you mentioned it here.
I can't do charts and astrology is way above me but I know that you are beautiful Kel. Absolutely gorgeous from the inside out.
A beautifully wrapped package is nice Kel. The beautiful colorful box to the most beautifully made bow but if the box is empty inside what good is it? You could set it on a shelf and admire but that is it. The sum total of Zero.
posted on January 2, 2001 09:18:30 AM new
Potato - I did not forget you. After last nights writing, I don't want you thinking there is some horror I don't want to report, I have just had things I have needed to do and rawbunzel wrote - I really had to clean up my mess from last go round.
snarky - I will take a peek first opportunity.
kitsch1 is not stubborn, she is Pisces. Further she is Pisces in the 4th/Cancer house and plus she has a Libra Moon.
Pisces is fishes swimming in different directions, which is highly apparent if you read her posts. Further, in the 4th house, she moves sideways like a crab. This does not mean she is not moving - in fact Pisces is *always* moving. Last, her Libra Moon has a terrific problem deciding anything and so there you go - astrology alive kitsch1 is right on track.
She says she wants love, she does not want love, she is not worthy of love (this last is transient - Saturn through the 7th). She goes out, she retreats, etc, etc, etc. Very well done kitsch1 - you are living your life. None of this changes the fact that there is man for you, even if you are not apt to strap a gun on, focus up and go hunt him down and drag him home.
I don't know your situation, but obviously you have 2(or more) daughters. I was a single mother with a daughter for awhile and I enjoyed it quite a lot. Way more than people around me thought I would or should, but what do they know? Eventually, it became to clear to me that we were seriously lacking in testosterone.
I got a dog.
Yes.
A big male dog from the Dumb Friends League. We got him on St. Patrick's Day and as we were driving him home with his green leash (he was puking, I was warned, I think he is a Taurus), I was thinking "Lucky" and "Potato Famine" and so named him Lucky.
This had an immediate effect on our lives.
It became abundantly clear how starved we were for "maleness" in and around the house and Lucky really enhanced our family.
Of course, now I know he was standing in for the lucky Irish man 'round the corner (my husband remarks that he looks like the dog quite a bit and it is true), and 2 years ago we had a son and my family is complete, and in hindsight, I see that getting Lucky (no pun ) was pivotal.
I am writing this is let you know that how it seems and how it has been is moving, and it is moving now, and there is a guy.
Now don't get pissed off at me on the days / hours / minutes you don't want him.
That is your problem
posted on January 2, 2001 09:48:42 AM new
Hello, all!
I wanted to chime in a little for Kitsch.
As I was reading VM's post to you I was struck by the notion or the message being sent that translated to "surviving life crisis (tests) comes out on the other end as building character and wisdom" or words to that effect. I had my own half-hearted smile at the thought of this idea, because I know it is true. While I was going through and survivng these crisis, believe me, I wasn't aware of any intrinsic lesson being taught. I just felt an intense "why me?" mantra over and over.
I will give you a few actual events so you'll see what I am relating to.
I have survived car wrecks, where I had only myself to help me...rolled my car 7 times and at the end of the rolling, waited around for someone to help me. No one did, so I walked up to the interstsate and waved someone down.
I survived a sexual assault where 2 weeks latter the physical sickness from this attack progressed so far that I wound up driving my self (alone again) to the hospital. Stood in line (alone) and the woman behind the glass pulled me out of line because she assumed I was dieing and figured standing in a really long line wasn't the best thing for me. I spent 6 days in the hospital (alone, no visitors) and sort worried about my car being left where ever it was that I parked it.
I rode the bus to have a medical "procedure" (alone) done in San Francisco and when it was done, I was in huge amounts of pain and rode the bus back home again, to no one but my gold fish. I spent a night in the hallway of a hospital, (because I had no insurance they were gonna kick me out the next day, if I was still alive) after the doctor told me (of course, I was alone) I had 2 problems, an std (from my first true love, no less) and either viral or spinal menengitis, so I would either die or be on my way somewhere they could treat me with no insurance. I have OD-ed on variuos drugs and still took myself to the hospital (alone) found the courage to tell the hospital staff the truth, survived their disgust and treatment and off I went!
I survived...............lots of these types of crisis, by myself. It sucked at the time. I absolutely gained character, strength and wisdom. Would not trade it for love or money. It is a good thing I have that resolve because I don't see any love or money coming my way any time soon. You will be a stronger person, better person, more whole person, and charcter translates to me as a person with absolute value and worth. A person with a pure spirtiual core. Which is a gift to the universe. Period.
[ edited by even59 on Jan 2, 2001 09:53 AM ]
posted on January 2, 2001 10:55:33 AM new
Eve there is no reason for you to be alone. I look, I look and I look for an explanation and it is not there.
Hardship?
Yes. Cap rising, Saturn conjunct
Near death?
Yes. Pluto in the 8th
drunk?
Yes Neptune opp the Sun Moon
Your Sun and Moon are in Taurus (love) in the 4th house (home). This is a home full of love.
Get it?
This is what you need to be happy (live your sun, satisfy your moon).
Now what is up with this stinkin' deprivation?
You know what I think has gone wrong here?
You have a death grip on the wheel.
Too much control.
That and fear and afraid you are no deserving (Capricorn).
The fear is the reason for the control.
This is the straight undecorated truth (you don't relate to anything else anyway).
If you go "out" - see someone you want - you can have them in your bed in a matter of hours. You put the Pluto in the 8th sex vibe out - combined with the double Taurus love beam and your target is toast. You got the Mommy thing going too , PLUS you are exotic. Talk about being loaded for bear, I mean c'mon here.
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Now Cap rising - this is for you.
YOUR FREAKIN' DUES ARE PAID. In fact you are pure fool if you do not spend the rest of your life ENJOYING yourself. It is one dumbass Capricorn that continues to struggle past 35 YO.
Isn't 35 years enough?
I think so.
This is your new JOB.
Go find the Taurus love. She needs petted, and if you do not do everything you can to provide this, you are failing, and I knooooow this is not what you want.
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Eve - consider an Internet personal ad. Cap likes to interview lovers like it's a job or something. I am serious. Plus you have a 7th house Uranus and Venus in Gemini so computers and communication "fit".
Face your fear and go get what you want. You can bring it in ONE DAY, you FIXED stubborn BULL. Look around. You are free. You do not have to contend with the energies like kitsch1. You are an earthly animal and so go walk the earth and procure your lover. There is no reason to wait. None.
In fact, do it today, because you you are late to the party (and I know Cap hates this too)
Here is the clue.
All that stuff you have been through.
The reason was so that you could dance on top the mountain today. Your days of difficulty are done. They are Eve, they really are.
Capricorn Hapless goat rules post 35YO.
Get with the program.
disclaimer - this post written with verymodern love, so don't cringe water signs.
Eve is hugely thick skinned and so I am trying to make a dent.
Yes, I am trying to torture Capricorn in public.
This is because it is effective.
EOD
I have wondered if my life choices cause these things or maybe it really is "in the stars" and no matter what a person does it will turn out similarly. Seems like things went downhill when I married, which is funny since we lived together for 8 years before we did. Last year was particularly interesting but mostly revolved around my daughter and some problems she had as well as my husband and finances. Really it is more the things and people around me than "ME" if you know what I mean.My life has always seemed to go in seven year cycles so I figured I had at least one more year to go with this one.