When you make a statement that is controversial and one that nobody believes but you, it's your obligation to back up your statement with a link. It's not my job or Kiara's job. It's your job. Without a link from you, we will dismiss your statement as not credible and probably, in light of your history, as a lie. It happens over and over and over so everyone here knows the drill.
posted on December 27, 2005 01:03:58 PM
Nowhere in the angelfire link (which were someone else's words and not mine) does it say that Canada sent troops to Vietnam so lindak is definitely confused if she is reading that into it.
But with the steady spin of Fox News, her constant reading of rag sites and Ann Coulter as a role model I shouldn't expect her to check facts or for her to cease lying on Vendio or on any other board she posts to.
posted on December 27, 2005 01:47:35 PM
LOL.....more and more 'funnies' coming from our liberal ladies club.
You all need to do some reading. Canada DID send troops to Vietnam....as kiara once pointed out while defending her country....whether SHE remembers doing so or not.
Do a google search....see that Canada even BUILT A VIETNAM WAR MEMORIAL for their fallen Vietnam vets.
Read why so many of them moved to the US after returning home to Canada from VN.
Read why Canada could not admit to NATO and the world that they HAD sent troops to VN. And see how they got around that little 'detail'.
From Answers.com....but many more can be found on the highway of info....IF you just look....
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And of course, do we REALLY expect any liberal to give the FULL story behind Ann Coulters statements? I sure don't. They rely on 1/2 truths and falsehoods all the time.
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Concurrent with the draft dodging and defections to Canada an estimated 10,000 Canadians joined the U.S. military and fought with the Americans in Vietnam, and several thousand more Canadians joined and served with the U.S. military but did not fight in Vietnam.
110 Canadians died in Vietnam and seven remain listed as Missing in Action. Many of these were Canadians who had long lived in the United States, Canadians with US citizenship who were drafted or had previously served in the U.S., and out-of-work soldiers who had been the victims of recent government cutbacks.
This cross border enlistment was not unusual: in both World War I and World War II tens of thousands of Americans had joined the Canadian forces while their homeland was still neutral. Canadian Peter C. Lemon won the U.S. Medal of Honor for his valour in the conflict.
In Windsor, Ontario, there is a small, privately funded monument to the Canadians killed in the Vietnam War. However, many Canadian veterans returned to a society that was strongly anti-war. Unlike in the United States, there were no veterans organizations or help from the government. Many of them moved permanently to the United States. There has been ongoing controversy among Canadian Vietnam veterans who want their comrades' deaths to be formally acknowledged by the government, especially in times of remembrance such as Remembrance Day.
Then further ways Canada supported our efforts during the Vietnam war.....which I'm sure kiara will deny too.....after all Canada is such a peace loving nation.
posted on December 27, 2005 02:08:52 PMCanada DID send troops to Vietnam....as kiara once pointed out while defending her country....whether SHE remembers doing so or not.
I never ever posted that Canada sent troops to Vietnam, lindak.
Canada did not send troops to Vietnam, private citizens volunteered. Canada recognizes that some volunteered to fight there and lost their lives there, but they did not officially send them to Vietnam nor did Canada have a draft.
And Canada is not my country to defend, lindak. I just refute the BS you post about it and about me all the time because of your true ignorance and your inherent need to lie constantly.
As usual you have no links to back up your claims about what you think I said because none exist.
posted on December 27, 2005 02:18:01 PM
LOL.....let me put it to you this way kiara....
none of you have ever been able to prove the true statements I make here as being false. Yet you continue to lie and tell EVERYONE who will listen....that I'm lying.
No, I can't always find the proof of what you've said. BUT be clear, that doesn't MEAN nor PROVE you didn't say it. You're ALWAYS DEFENDING Canada no matter what I post about it/their actions/their politicians/etc.
I don't tell lies here....like I've proved over and over some of you do. crowfarm/mingotree being the worst one.....followed by helen in a close second place.
So IF you don't wish to admit you WERE telling ME that Canada did have troops that served in VN, then that is your lack of memory ....because you did. You were defending Canada once again and implying that Canada ONLY wouldn't support us in Iraq because of your hatred for President Bush. I remember it vividly.
Now....I'm done 'playing' name calling with you and the rest of your liberal ladies group. Even when I do post the links....can find them....you just twist what you said around to have a 'new' meaning.
No point in continuing on with this. I have now given a link that shows how Canada got around NATO's objection to them admitting they sent their troops to VN. Might also want to see just who transported them from Canada to VN too.
posted on December 27, 2005 02:24:13 PM
Linda, they voluntarily enlisted. But I didn't realize this happened...
"The lowest point was in April 2, 1965 when Pearson gave a speech at Temple University in the United States which called for a reduction in the bombing of North Vietnam. When a furious President Lyndon B. Johnson met with Pearson, he grabbed the much smaller Canadian by the shirt collar, lifted him off the rug, and yelled, "You pissed on my rug!"
posted on December 27, 2005 02:27:01 PM
lindak, once again you lied about me and when asked for a link to prove your claims you don't have one because it doesn't exist and then you spin more crap and run away.
posted on December 27, 2005 02:41:50 PMYou were defending Canada once again and implying that Canada ONLY wouldn't support us in Iraq because of your hatred for President Bush. I remember it vividly.
posted on December 27, 2005 03:23:49 PM
Linda, there's a difference between ordering troops to war and troops volunteering to fight. Canada was neutral during VN.
posted on December 27, 2005 03:45:20 PM
linduh, you're lying again !
"" don't tell lies here....like I've proved over and over some of you do. crowfarm/mingotree being the worst one.....followed by helen in a close second place."""
You have NEVER proven I lied about anything.....but like a bushite you think repeating something will make it true.
OK, linda-k is a lesbian, linda-k is a lesbian, linda-k is a lesbian.
posted on December 27, 2005 03:49:00 PM
Kraft, I didn’t think I had that much pull either so was waiting for lindak to prove that statement with a link.
But I think she’s busy posting her view of a movie she’s never seen like she did with Michael Moore’s that she didn’t see and the book The Da Vinci Code that she never read and her biased views of Canada and other countries, never having lived there.
Isn’t Google search an amazing tool for those who want to be controlled by one mindset?
posted on December 27, 2005 04:33:15 PM
Oh ....but again your poor memory fails you helen. Not that long ago I pointed out TWO lies I caught you in. You, like mingotree never admit it even WHEN proof is provided.
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Here's a link to one of the Canadian Vietnam War Memorials online:
THEY say 40,000 Candian troops fought in VN. But I'm sure, according to the liberal ladies here, they were never trained by the Candian military....just your average citizens that signed up without being trained. SENT over there by the Canadian gov.....but hey...maybe the liberal ladies think they paid their own way to get to VN.
Who knows what our liberal ladies can come up with....but yes, the Canadian government lied and denied they sent troops.....just as they lied about supporting our war efforts by sending supplies to the US troops too. They've been caught, more than once lying to their citizens....and during the VN war wasn't the only time.
May be why they censor the news their citizens get to hear even today.
posted on December 27, 2005 04:38:18 PM
"[i]Canadian products shipped to Vietnam via the United States included ammunition, grenades, aircraft, chemical defoliants, navigation systems, weapons release computers, artillery shells, rocket warheads, and demolition materials. Even Canadian boots, green berets, and rye whiskey made it to Vietnam. As did large quantities of napalm.
The Canadian government claimed to have no formal knowledge of products sold to the United States being shipped elsewhere. But Cabinet documents from that period released in 1986 indicate otherwise. In September 1965, then Secretary for External Affairs Paul Martin Sr. informed Cabinet that the Pentagon had procured items in Canada that were destined for Vietnam. Martin, says Levant, "candidly noted that he was bringing this matter to Cabinet's attention not because it represented any change in policy but because it might lead to criticism of the government.""
No, KD, you're wrong. Canada wanted the world to BELIEVE they were neutral....but too many reported FACTS show that just wasn't true. Even socialist websites say and were upset that Canada WAS supporting the US in VN.
Sorry to break your 'bubble'....but FACTS are FACTS.....And you too can read about it....just put in Canada's involvement in VN war....and see for yourself. Your country was NOT neutral by ANY means.
posted on December 27, 2005 04:42:01 PM
Linda, you have NEVER caught me in "two lies" and provided proof. You are a whacked out ding bat in my opinion who accuses EVERONE of lying if they don't agree with your OPINION.
In the future, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from enfolding my name in your criticism of others here. I have never seen Mingo or Kiara lie about anything.
I have pages of documented lies that you have told about me with links available.
You are so obnoxious to me that I try to overlook whatever you post.
posted on December 27, 2005 04:47:53 PM
lindak, did you even take time to read your link? Your link says that Canadians 'volunteered'. Do you know what that means?
No, they were not sent over by the Canadian government. They were private individuals that joined the US Armed Forces, Canada wasn't training them.
And nowhere did I ever post that I have hatred for President Bush because I don't. I said that I did not approve of his actions.
Hate is a neo-con word that is used so often that some here who hate from their soul and even promote genocide just assume that others who don't approve of someone must hate as they do. Not true!
posted on December 27, 2005 06:05:30 PM
linda, you can't win a discussion just by saying everyone else is lying.....you need more to back up an argument than to just say everyone is lying.
You keep saying I lied and you have never shown proof that I did.
What keeps you from posting it?
And saying that you have doesn't make it true.
My new tagline:
""colin
posted on December 27, 2005 05:18:57 PM
Linda,
Do you get the point?
No matter what you say is a lie.
posted on December 27, 2005 06:19:15 PMLinda, Do you get the point? No matter what you say is a lie.
Yes, I get what they say....and what they'd like to convince others is the truth. But I like calling them when they mistate or deny what they've said before. They can't handle that even when links ARE provided proving them wrong.
It's just their 'game'. Deny everything....maybe someone will believe them.
[i]Anything and everything they say is the truth, no matter haw many times they change their minds, swear they didn't state something.
Nice catch on kiara, she's still trying to weasel her way on of that one[/i].
I know....that's the God's honest truth.
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helen....there isn't enough time in my evening to post all the lies and insuniations you've posted. [b]Maybe you might want to start drinking some 'green tea'. I've read it's great for helping the memories of those who are entering the beginning stages of Alzheimer's....like I'm beginning to believe you have.
But let's see....a few recent ones that come to mind are when you and kiara TRIED, FALSELY to convince others here that I had reported maggie and that's why she wasn't posting. Both of you had to wipe the egg off your faces when she came back. [Girlfriends thread - re-stated in the In God We Trust thread].
Then there was the time you ADAMANTLY DENIED you'd ever edited your ENTIRE posts.....and I post three links where you had done just that.
Then there was the time when you denied you'd said you were anti-war...said you were ONLY anti-this war....but that wasn't what you'd posted before. THEN you changed it to only being against this Iraq war.
There have been other too, helen that you've said....just aren't coming to mind right now.
But you MUST remember me calling you 'out' on them. Drink more green tea if you don't remember.
edited to add:
I thought of a couple more.
One being that you have NEVER stated you keep files on what others post here. When you have said just that.
Two being your own words to another poster....paraphrasing here...."I have kept a file of EVERY post I have EVER made here.
Gee....we believed you then....but I'm not 'buying' your recent reversals of previous statements you've made here to me and others.
Nope....I consider those to be lies too. Either the first version you gave or your denial about them now. Can't have it both ways helen....one or the other is true.
posted on December 27, 2005 06:26:44 PM
Yes, lindak has spent all day trying to weasel her way out of another lie and as usual she has no links to back up her claims about me because they don’t exist.
lindak was ignorant about Canadians that volunteered and joined the US forces to serve in Vietnam.
She was also ignorant about females serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.
So now she comes back and smears her posts with smilies and more lies hoping to cover up her true ignorance while she plays to some who are less informed and will lap it all up and join forces with her.
posted on December 27, 2005 06:27:11 PM
linda, you can't win a discussion just by saying everyone else is lying.....you need more to back up an argument than to just say everyone is lying.
You keep saying I lied and you have never shown proof that I did.
What keeps you from posting it?
And saying that you have doesn't make it true.
My new tagline:
""colin
posted on December 27, 2005 05:18:57 PM
Linda,
Do you get the point?
No matter what you say is a lie.
posted on December 27, 2005 06:29:18 PM
tHERE IS PROOF THAT LINDA LIED ABOUT WHO COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT THREAD TO vENDIO THAT GOT PULLED. bLAMED EVERYBODY BUT HER friend dBLE WHO DID IT!
posted on December 27, 2005 06:44:59 PMBut let's see....a few recent ones that come to mind are when you and kiara TRIED, FALSELY to convince others here that I had reported maggie and that's why she wasn't posting.
Another huge lie by lindak who is grasping at straws and just can't help herself from posting more BS.
I never said lindak reported Maggie and I never mentioned that Maggie was not posting here because I didn’t even realize she was gone at the time.
And I am sure lindak has no link to back up that one either.
But she will most likely return with more lies and more smilies.
posted on December 27, 2005 07:04:14 PM
Yes, bear, she's the one whose whole career has been devoted to bashing Bush....as governor of TX and for the past five years of his Presidency.
LOL....her career will most likely end, abuptly, when his administration is over in 2009.
She's had a 'hard on' for him since day one.
Just another liberal writer who usually doesn't know what she's talking about anyway.
As I have found during the past several months, and as a number of other people here and on other boards have discovered, discussing anything with you lately is FUTILE. Recently, several people have suggested to you that you might have an emotional or personal problem that has led you to become very difficult, tedious and hysterical while discussing topics that should not cause any controversy.
So you take care of your mental health, linda. Mine is just fine.
