If the small countries of Europe should learn anything from history it is that they are like the colonies of America who joined the union with the firm understanding that if the union was not to their liking and benefit they could withdraw. Mr. Lincoln had other ideas.
If they should try to remove themselves in the future they can be assured they will pay a price of blood from their brother states. In time the EU will be like every other ever growing political system. It will suck more and more of their treasure and freedoms until it collapses of it's own top heavy mass. A condition we are approuching here.
posted on October 5, 2003 05:10:41 PM new
gravid - I usually find most all of your posts interesting subjects. I just don't know enough about this whole issue to be able to say anything intelligent about it. Although I do find it interesting to watch so many countries all working to reach an agreement on what seems like a million different issues.
I didn't know, for example, that: ....they are like the colonies of America who [i]joined the union with the firm understanding that if the union was not to their liking and benefit they could withdraw. I've never even heard that before. I've always thought it was just the opposite. Like with Utah...I thought they had to agree to abide by the already established US laws, IF they were to join the Union themselves.
Is your position then that maybe it's not in the smaller countries best interest to join the EU?
[ edited by Linda_K on Oct 5, 2003 05:12 PM ]
posted on October 5, 2003 08:14:37 PM new
"maybe it's not in the smaller countries best interest to join the EU?"
Imagine for a minute that all 50 states were individual countries. They decide to form a general Constitution for all of them.
What's the likelihood of Rhode Island or Connecticut having a say in what happens? Who is going to get preferential treatment, Rhode Island or Texas? Equality is tough to legislate. OUR Consitution managed it, but it took a lot of thought and work.
Constitution building is not an easy process. It took OUR founders years to get it right, and then it took dozens of amendments to keep it working.
For the EU to think they can get it perfect in 60 days is foolish.
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posted on October 5, 2003 09:11:32 PM new
No the small countries are sooner or later going to be second class parties to the union. Even though there are measures in place in the US to even the playing field states with small populations and states that are pretty much urban are in a constant battle for resources and favorable laws. When the income tax came in at the start of the century it was only possible to introduce it my making a constitutional amendment. It was NOT anything the founding fathers favored. At that time some in Congress were afraid of it saying it was a tax on the top 1% of wage earners but that it would creep up until
they were asking 3 or 4% of what people made. If only they could have seen the reality that they are taking basically half now by the time you add everything up.
The power to tax is the power to destroy. Aned they have that now over everyone.
