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 cashinyourcloset
 
posted on January 17, 2008 06:22:02 AM new
This morning at the gym (shocking, considering how I look, but I do go) a friend asked me for help with a quote attributed to William Randolph Hearst. It refers to the dangers inherent in arguing with someone who controls the newspapers, something like "don't get into a fight with the man who controls the ink."

Any help is appreciated. I didn't find it with Google; I'm sure because I couldn't think of the right search.

 
 TheFamilyBiz
 
posted on January 17, 2008 06:29:41 AM new
Ahhh - You mean "Never argue with a man who buys his ink by the barrel."

However - it's often attributed to Ben Franklin (who was, indeed, a publisher) and even Mark Twain. So, where did it start?

I do hope that's close as I've used it in the first 15 years of my working life in the Fourth Estate.


Wayne

Never explain -- Your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway.
~ Elbert Hubbard



[ edited by TheFamilyBiz on Jan 17, 2008 06:32 AM ]
 
 tomwiii
 
posted on January 17, 2008 06:37:01 AM new
Or, as Orson Welles learned:

"Never make fun of a MULTI-BILLIONAIRE publisher whose pet name for his bimbo's "apparatus" is:"ROSEBUD"






 
 cashinyourcloset
 
posted on January 17, 2008 06:44:53 AM new
Thank you

 
 neglus
 
posted on January 17, 2008 06:46:10 AM new
In looking up the quote I found a great list of quotes, apparently compiled by IBM for a conference:

IBM Customer Executive Conference Quotes

1. Pressure is playing for $50 a hole with only $5 in your pocket.
--- Lee Trevino

2. A halo has to fall only a few inches to become a noose.
--- Farmers Almanac

3. If you think OSHA is a small town in Wisconsin, you're in trouble.

4. A pat on the back is only a few centimeters from a kick in the pants.
--- Wilcox's Law

5. All kookies are not in a jar.

6. I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell.
--- Harry Truman

7. Legend --- a lie that has attained the dignity of age. --- H. L. Mencken

8. Insanity is hereditary. You get it from your children.

9. Experience varies directly with equipment ruined.
--- Horner's Five-Thump Postulate

10. Wet manure is slippery.
--- OSHA discovery

11. A leader in the Democratic Party is a boss, in the Republican Party he is
a leader.
--- Harry Truman

12. Live every day as if it were your last and then some day you'll be right.

13. People will buy anything that's one to a customer.
--- Lewis' Law

14. Take the diplomacy out of war and the thing would fall flat in a week.
--- Will Rogers

15. The man who can smile when things go wrong has thought of someone he can
blame it on.
--- Jones' Law

16. I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.
--- Will Rogers

17. The scenery only changes for the lead dog.

18. The dictionary is the only place where success comes before work

19. The good die young --- because they see it's no use living if you've
got to be good. --- John Barrymore

20. If everything seems to be coming your way, you're probably in the wrong
lane.

21. When better business decisions are made, economists won't make them.
--- H. V. Prochnow

22. Talent in staff work or sales will recurringly be interpreted as
managerial ability.
--- Boyle's Law

23. What this country needs is a good five-cent nickel.
--- Frank Adams

24. Mrs. Murphy's Law --- Mr. Murphy was an optimist.

25. If you're coasting, you're going downhill.

26. Genius is 1% inspiration, and 99% perspiration.

27. Old age is an incurable disease.

28. For the first time in history, one bag of groceries produces two bags of
trash.
--- Orben's Packaging Discovery

29. Marriage is a lottery, but you can't tear up your ticket if you lose.
--- F. M. Knowles

30. Diplomacy --- the art of saying ``Nice doggie'' 'til you can find a stick.
--- Wynn Catlin}

31. You can't fall off the floor.
--- Murphy's Law

32. Just when I finally figure out where it's at somebody moves it.
--- Chataqua Boulevard Law

33. You should have seen it when I got it.
--- Bureaucratic Cop-out

34. Fans don't boo ``nobodies''.

35. A committee is a group that keeps minutes and loses hours.
--- Milton Berle

36. I'm proud of paying taxes. The only thing is --- I could be just as
proud for half the money.
--- Arthur Godfrey

37. If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of car
payments.
--- Earl Wilson

38. I'm opposed to millionaires, but it would be dangerous to offer me the
same opportunity.
--- Mark Twain

39. Automatic simply means that you can't repair it yourself.
--- Mark Waldrip

40. If the world comes to an end, I want to be in Cincinnati --- everything
comes there ten years later.
--- Will Rogers

41. Lawyers are like beavers. They get in the main stream and jam it up.
--- W. Freund}

42. One place where you're sure to find the perfect driver is in the back
seat.
--- Homer Phillips

43. Somebody left the cork out of my lunch.
--- W. C. Fields

44. Aaeeeyaayaaayaaya.
--- Johnny Weismuller

45. Gray hair is God's graffiti.
--- Bill Cosby

46. He who hesitates is not only lost, but miles from the next exit.

47. I'd give $1000 to be a millionaire.
--- Lewis Timberlake

48. 95% of this game is half mental.
--- Yogi Berra

49. Taco Bell is not a Mexican telephone company.

50. A Smith and Wesson beats four aces.
--- Canada Bill Jones

51. A little inaccuracy saves a world of explanation.
--- C. E. Ayers

52. To get maximum attention, it's hard to beat a good, big mistake.

53. Familiarity breeds contempt --- and children.
--- Mark Twain

54. Interchangable parts won't.

55. Pick good people --- talent never wears out.

56. Inspiration and perspiration are related by more than rhyme.

57. When you're up to your nose, keep your mouth shut.
--- Beauregard's Law

58. Never argue with a man who buys ink by the barrel.
--- Greener's Law

59. An executive will always return to work from lunch early if no one
takes him.
--- Kelly's Law

60. Our elections are free --- it's in the results where eventually we pay.
--- Bill Stern

61. No man's credit is as good as his money.
--- E. W. Howe}

62. Cadillacs are down at the end of the bat.
--- Ralph Kiner

63. We have deep depth.
--- Yogi Berra

64. We made too many wrong mistakes.
--- Yogi Berra

65. All right everyone, line up alphabetically according to your height.
--- Casey Stengel

66. If I knew I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care
of myself.
--- Mickey Mantle

67. We are in such a slump that even the ones that aren't drinkin' aren't
hittin'.
--- Casey Stengel

68. I've got to stop getting fired like this. People will start to think
I'm a drifter.
--- Lee Iacocca

69. Once over the hill you pick up speed.

70. Beware of those wearing suspenders with belts.

71. The first sign of maturity is the discovery that the volume knob
also turns to the left.

72. Warning on a sports car: ``The keys are on the seat next to the
doberman''.

73. In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular.
--- Kathy Norris

74. The trick is to stop thinking it is `your' money.
--- IRS auditor

75. The squeaky wheel doesn't always get the grease! Sometimes it gets
replaced.
--- Vic Gold

76. After any unit has been completely assembled, extra components will
be found on the bench.
--- Murphy's Corollary

77. Another basic law: If the facts don't conform to the theory, they must
be disposed of.
--- Fiedler's Forecasting Rules

78. He who walks in another's tracks leaves no footprints.
--- Joan L. Brannon

79. Genius without education is like silver in the mine.
--- Ben Franklin

80. Creditors have better memories than debtors.
--- Ben Franklin

81. There is nothing so habit forming as money.
--- Dan Marquis

82. When angry, count to four; when very angry, swear.
--- Mark Twain

83. Man's mind, once stretched by a new idea, never regains its original
dimensions.
--- Oliver Wendell Holmes

84. People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care.

85. People will accept your idea much more readily if you tell them Benjamin
Franklin said it first.
--- Comins' Law

86. If two wrongs don't make a right, try three.
--- Nixon's Principle

87. Did you ever hear of a self-made failure?

88. There's no fool like an old fool --- you can't beat experience.
--- Jacob Braude

89. Frustration is not having anyone to blame but yourself.
--- Bits & Pieces

90. Free advice costs nothing until you act upon it.

91. Don't be irreplacable. If you can't be replaced you can't be promoted.

92. Fact without theory is trivia. Theory without fact is #*!@.

93. If it looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true.

94. Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster.

95. If you did what you always did, you'll get what you always got.

96. Whatever you have, you must either use or lose.
--- Henry Ford

97. The best way to make a fire with two sticks is to make sure one of them
is a match.

98. When you're down and out, lift up your voice and shout, ``I'M DOWN
AND OUT!''.

99. We will have the answers for you tomorrow morning!

100. Adolescents --- children old enough to dress by themselves, if they could
just remember where they last saw their clothes.

101. It doesn't matter if you win or lose until you lose.

102. If you think you can, or if you think you can't you're right!

103. You can observe a lot by just watching.
--- Yogi Berra

104. Republicans employ exterminators. Democrats step on bugs.

105. I once worked as a salesman and was very independent. I took
orders from no one!
--- Gerand Barzan

106. Are you man or mouse? Squeak up!

107. A psychiatrist asks a lot of expensive questions your wife asks for
nothing.
--- Joey Adams

108. If you hit a home run you can take your time running the bases.
--- Casey Stengel

109. Unless absolutely essential, borrowing to buy a depreciating asset
is dumb.
--- Caroline Donnelly

110. Never try to guess your wife's size. Just buy her anything marked
``petite'' and hold on to the receipt.

111. A youth becomes a man when the marks he wants to leave on the world
have nothing to do with tires.

112. Economists are people who work with numbers but don't have the
personality to be accountants.

113. Happiness is having a large, loving, caring, close-knit family in
another city.
--- George Burns

114. In Mexico we have a word for sushi --- bait.
--- Jose' Simon

115. In America, you can always find a party. In Russia, the party always
finds you.
--- Yakov Smirnoff

116. There will be a rain dance Friday night, weather permitting.
--- George Carlin

117. If you don't make dust you eat dust.
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 tonimar1
 
posted on January 17, 2008 09:24:17 AM new
Tom, you mentioned Rosebud, in the movie Citizen Kane that was the last word Kane said just before he died, and no one knew what he was referring to.....in the movie that is...

toni
 
 cashinyourcloset
 
posted on January 17, 2008 09:35:48 AM new
Toni,

I think Tom knew that... unless you're making a really dry joke.

It was, of course, his childhood sled. How Tom came to confuse a sled with a bimbo's apparatus is of course open to a thousand punchlines. I won't go there

 
 roadsmith
 
posted on January 17, 2008 09:42:02 AM new
Wonderful quotes! Ahhh, that Harry Truman. What a guy, and how I wish we could have cloned him.
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 neglus
 
posted on January 17, 2008 09:45:02 AM new
There are other schools of thought, or so says cunning linguist, Gore Vidal:
A rosebud by any other name..."
"For decades, the film's impact rested there. But then, in 1989, four years after Welles' death, in a short memoir in the New York Review of Books, Gore Vidal said that "Rosebud" was also Hearst's pet name for Marion's cl*****s. Now, Mr. Vidal is no mean historian -- granted that he does history his way -- and a very accomplished gossip (which may have to do with his confessed habit of never missing a chance of sexual intercourse). I believe he said that he had this cl***ral inside stuff from Charles Lederer, who was related to Marion Davies and who was often a guest at San Simeon. There was no proof, of course -- though, suddenly, the big close-up of Kane's mouth, beneath the crest of mustache, saying, or sighing, "Rosebud," did take on new meanings for cunning linguists. And those of us who have always valued the wicked, schoolboy tease in Welles thought it was possible."

http://archive.salon.com/sex/feature/2000/07/28/kane/


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http://stores.ebay.com/Moody-Mommys-Marvelous-Postcards?refid=store [ edited by neglus on Jan 17, 2008 09:46 AM ]
 
 tonimar1
 
posted on January 17, 2008 09:51:55 AM new
cash

I guess it was a dry joke, but here's another


A traveler became lost in the desert region of Algeria. Realizing
his only chance for survival was to find civilization, he began
walking. Time passed, and he became thirsty. More time passed,
and he began feeling faint. Reduced to crawling, he was on the
verge of passing out when he spied a tent about 500 meters in
front of him. Barely conscious, he reached the tent and called out,
"Water...".

A bedouin appeared in the tent door and replied sympathetically,
"I am sorry, sir, but I have no water. However, would you like to
buy a tie?" With this, he brandished a collection of exquisite
silken neckwear.

"You fool," gasped the man. "I'm dying! I need water!"

"Well, sir," replied the bedouin, "If you really need water, there is
a tent about 2 kilometers south of here where you can get some."

Without knowing how, the man summoned sufficient strength to
drag his parched body the distance to the second tent. With his
last ounce of strength he tugged at the door of the tent and
collapsed.

Another bedouin, dressed in a costly tuxedo, appeared at the door
and enquired, "May I help you sir?"

"Water..." was the feeble reply.

"Oh, sir," replied the bedouin, "I'm sorry, but you can't come in
here without a tie!"

 
 cashinyourcloset
 
posted on January 17, 2008 09:56:35 AM new
Toni, thanks for the joke.

Neglus, cunning linguists indeed

 
 tomwiii
 
posted on January 17, 2008 10:13:21 AM new
"or sighing, "Rosebud," did take on new meanings for cunning linguists."

Ralphie & I (dirty old men that we are) are...ROTFLOAOPIMP

"snicker, snicker...chortle,chortle"

says our good friend: Michael Hunt

??








[ edited by tomwiii on Jan 17, 2008 10:14 AM ]
 
 tomwiii
 
posted on January 17, 2008 10:27:00 AM new
neglus:

The story I heard was:

Herman J. Mankiewicz, who wrote the screenplay (with Welles) was a very frequent quest at San Simeon, and a "friend" of said bimbo. Susposedly, he heard the old bastid use that "term of endearment" many times during weekend "parties."

Hearst really didn't care about the attack on HIM, but went totally BUG-TOID about the attack on DAVIES (who, apparently was a real sweetie), and felt betrayed by Herman J. Mankiewicz, especially the part about his tacky & secret "pet name" for Miss Davies..."nether regions."

...an ASIDE:
In the 1940's that NASTY OLD MAN was truly on the verge of total ruin & bankruptcy. Marion Davies SOLD (all on her own, without his knowledge) all the jewelry he had given her over 30 years & raised 1 million dollars, which she happily gave to him & bailed his NASTY BUTT out of trouble -- quite a gal, I'd say!










[ edited by tomwiii on Jan 17, 2008 10:28 AM ]
 
 mcjane
 
posted on January 17, 2008 06:00:48 PM new
I always thought Rosebud was Hurst's sled.

Now that that has been cleared up can someone tell me something else that escapes me. In Pulp Fiction what was in that briefcase.

 
 tomwiii
 
posted on January 17, 2008 06:11:09 PM new
"I always thought Rosebud was Hurst's sled."

On the surface level, IT WAS...






[ edited by tomwiii on Jan 17, 2008 08:34 PM ]
 
 mcjane
 
posted on January 17, 2008 08:23:59 PM new
Yes, but was the "other" meaning of Rosebud hinted in the movie, or someone else's interpretation?

 
 tomwiii
 
posted on January 17, 2008 08:35:53 PM new
No...it's a part of the movie's lore...






 
 aintrichyet
 
posted on January 18, 2008 12:28:55 AM new
neglus... i like this one the best. lol

---
Live every day as if it were your last and then some day you'll be right.

 
 
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