posted on March 7, 2003 07:55:15 PM new
Sorry for such a long post.
If you would like to take a look at the comment a seller wrote about me, here is the auction # 3118061314.... can she do that?
I did give her a neg, but that was after she told me (twice) that she wasn't sending me my item cause I didn't buy anything from her. That's also when I called her a "newbie". I didn't understand how I bid on auction with seller having (0) fb, I never do that (you'll read below how I did).
This woman made my week-end a hell...she accused me of everything and anything, just because I said it may be her web tv that is causing the problem not my yahoo account. Then she noticed I paypaled her with a different email and that really set her off.
She said she'd give me a refund but I really wanted he needles, I got them at a bargain price (so I thought). She then refused to refund, that's when she said I never bought anything from her and she would contact ebay and get me kicked off because I called her a newbie and I had an illegal email address and I paid with yet another. She was making no sense at all.
I pulled her contact info. to see if she was going to mail my item or not, before I could call her she emailed me that that was the last straw, she was contacting her State Attorney General's office because I pulled her contact info. Soooo, I said that's it.... this lady is not playing with a full deck, I wrote paypal, and sent all the emails to ebay. Then next day she send me four emails going on and on. I contacted squareTrade but that was useless, I thought I 'd be able to talk to someone.
Well, to make a long story short, I get item in mail, packed in a small priority box, inside that is a bubble envelope sealed really well (to hold whatever liquid she put in the bag). I open the darn thing and my hand gets all wet with some smelly liquid. I empty the envelope on table and I see these wet hooks, box and papers....it was a mess. At first I thought someone was playing a joke on me cause I know I didn't bid on them! Then I thought someone sent me the wrong auction.
I tried to read the return address and I make out Florida and then I know who it's from.
But....I know I didn't bid on this stuff.
I go back over my bidding history and find that the seller stole the picture from another auction in fact... it was an auction I had been bidding on (I think it ended the 28th). Then I realized what must have happened.... I came across her auction, clicked on it, saw the picture and just bid again thinking it was the auction I already bid because the pictures were identical. I think that week I bid on three of those hooks.
I would never have bid on the hooks if the seller put the real photo in auction. She describes one needle as brass but it is completely rusted, the other has rust near the tip so that one is useless too. Futhermore, I don't want the stuff, who knows what she poured in the bag (I have an idea). I don't even want the moeny back, she can keep it.
I emailed the seller whose picture she stole and she acknowledged it was her picture and that she never gave permission for the lady to use it. I went through some of the sellers auctions and it seems like whenever she had a listing with a picture, she stole it. I emailed another seller, she said yes, it was hers but she didn't mind. In fact she always "steals" photos cause ......let me just copy and paste her email below....
Yes that one was originally my picture, that's my hand and my awful camera.
I don't mind. I steal pictures all the time too. Some of us have broken
cameras , or can't get a decent one, I'll take pictures off a major
company's site....etc.... Sometimes it's just easier to snag another picture
that looks good when we price check. We're just people trying to make
alittle money on things...we aren't rich corporations with all the graphic
designers in the world. There's no copywrite laws on steeling web pictures
off sites.
It's no biggie...it's not art I hope it helps her make a few bucks. Ebay
is hardly big money and it is very time consuming.
Thanks and take care,
(Then she realized I wanted to report the seller to ebay and BOY did she tell me off........read below)
I just emailed this lady your email...in doing so I read it better.
I just noticed the your trying to report her to safe harbor part????
Honestly,
Don't you have anything better to do with your time??? There's gotta be
better people you can turn in on for corruption than some lady trying to
make a few bucks off Ebay. General Powel just plagiarized his whole union
speech turned into the league of nations off a college kid on California 2
weeks ago. Go after him if you have to live you life tearing people apart
and breaking them down. I have a business and art (2 degrees) in multimedia
design and management information systems. There is nothing illegal about
taking pictures off a site as long as it isn't copywrited. Besides the fact
that what she is doing isn't illegal....( for lack of a better word and
refraining from using something distasteful) ..... YOU SUCK!!!! You
seriously need a life!!!! You seriously need to find better and more
positive things to do with your time!!! Give me a break!!!! GROW UP!!! I
don't care if your Picasso...YOU ARE AN ASS ( and he was too form what I've
read)!!!!! Don't Spam me again or I will turn YOU into Ebay!!! I don't have
the time or the desire to deal with your type of person. Life is hard
enough, with out people like you purposely trying to give people a hard
time. Maybe the lady can't afford a camera....maybe she has a low I.Q. and
is having a hard time learning to use a camera. It's nice that you don't
have these problems...It sucks that you can't share your gifts with people.
Ask her not to do it again if it bothers you that much....but I think your a
pretty selfish, self centered, and arrogant person if it does. People are
just trying to make it through the day. Especially if their selling on Ebay.
DON"T BE SUCH A #*!@!!!!!
Here is the first email from the seller whose picture was stolen...
WOW! I do believe that is my picture and "NO" I didn't give anyone permission and never have and never will. The box in that photo is in great shape as is all it's contents. Do what ever you need to do and include me in nailing this seller for fraud! Please keep me informed. STar.
I got so mad after that and of course I haven't heard from ebay and probably won't. I went and paid $20 to get a mediator just to show him the two pictures (no one contacted me yet). So today I go and read her "Me" page and that is what I found.
Oh ya, yesterday she emailed me about four more times telling me that the other seller contacted her and that she doesn't steal pictures she got permission to use all the photos. She has lied so many times I've lost count now. These last four emails were to my yahoo account, the one that caused her to get in a tizzy. Tell the truth, I read the first one and never bothered to read the other three.
posted on March 7, 2003 08:20:26 PM new
I read her post...she never mentioned your name...YOU on the other hand, not only mentioned HER name but your own when you gave the auction#..It would seem you are the newbie here!...
After hearing both sides of the story, seems she has more class at least..Here is her post with NO link to who you are!
"How is this possible?? Woman won an item on Friday, paid for it late night, we sent it as soon as possible following Monday, she files negative on us. All emails I sent to her after auction bounced back, ACCORDING TO YAHOO, no such user there, then she started putting us down in emails as when we DID catch up to her with different email address, she REFUSED to pay MANDATORY insurance on their item they won & told us the $3.85 priority mail, which is minimum piost office charges is TOO MUCH-they went as far as called me newbie, told me off, after winning item 2/28, then paying late Friday night; I sent item off Monday, the soonest our post office was open on 3/3 but is not quick enough for them as they disputed their PAYPAL card ALREADY as not getting item yet AND filed at Square Trade saying same-I AM NO MIRACLE WORKER-NO SELLER COULD GET AN ITEM TO BUYER THAT FAST unless sent express mail!). I think she should be suspended for falsely reporting these incidents as her email address is also not valid, according to YAHOO no such address exists so why can she do this? ANYONE help me out in this matter to get her punished by ebay? Doesn't seem fair at all! We did everything expected and still got lied about/negged."
Give me a break..you are making a mountain out of a molehill over a dinky low ticket sale and are appointing yourself an ebay police member, judge and jury...a self appointed organization that used to be known as tattletale or squealer..and still is..
You should have read the auction better since you bid on it because of a picture and not the detail..
And..I know you are not a newbie, just a semi-newbie with a small amount of feedback, but you were a newbie with 0 feedback once yourself..How nice you welcomed this newbie with a neg over an obvious lack of communication and understanding..how sad..
posted on March 7, 2003 08:20:26 PM new
Next time you bid on something go to your My Ebay page, click on Items I'm Bidding On,then click on the item you ARE bidding on!
This way you will avoid running around Ebay bidding on everything that has a picture that looks like the item you wanted!
posted on March 7, 2003 09:06:10 PM new
I looked at the auctions and I can see where the confusion was because the picture the seller swiped shows a box that doesn't match the box she was selling. And yes, this same picture does show on another auction you bid on.
It sounds like both of you overreacted too quickly and things got heated in a very short time and it went downhill from there.
Right now I would suck up the neg and move on. I doubt that many people will read the blah, blah on her Me page anyways.
I would be much more concerned about the smelly fluid that spilled on my table and what it really was and if it would contaminate me and if I should clean it in a special way or eat my dinner there ever again.
I feel you are both at fault.
In dealing with a newbie, whether as buyer or seller, the more experienced person usually has to bend over backwards to get the sale to go smoothly. Both of you let the situation escalate into war.
If you had included your Ebay user ID and the auction number and so on in your first emails (assuming you didn't) you might have avoided at least half of the confusion/upset at the start.
But, yes, she was dishonest to take another's pictures, no matter the jusification she or another thief gives you. When the seller mentioned the transaction on her about me page, she showed how petty she was, but she did not name you. No need to stoop to her level, though.
And if she did not send what was in the picture, then she is very dishonest, and propably got what she deserved in the end.
I would just walk away, unless the liquid was poison. I assume it was urine. Probably a Postal offense, but pursuing this further may earn you a lifelong vendetta. Yes, she's wrong. But you are not completely right either. Move on. Block her as a bidder if you sell, and block her email. Let it go.
posted on March 7, 2003 09:40:39 PM new
I admit.... I should have read the description, I am also guilty of not wanting insurance.
Anyway...thanks for all your input, I feel much better now! I guess I just needed to get it off my chest.
The table was a very small one next to computer, that and the item are all in trash, my shirt too. I was thankful my grandchildren weren't here, they like to open my packages.
posted on March 8, 2003 04:03:46 AM new
WOW! The seller shipped a baggie of p1$$ to the bidder? No wonder the hooks were rusted! That's almost as offensive as a bunch of ants in a used pizza box!!
"Who's tending the bar? Sniping works up a thirst"
posted on March 8, 2003 09:29:30 AM newThe table was a very small one next to computer, that and the item are all in trash, my shirt too.
Why?? Should of sold this stuff on ebay under the fetish section and made a ton of money! Throw in some old smelly shoes and you be living the high life. You just missed out on a gold mine here.
I hope it helps her make a few bucks. Ebay
Sniping works up a thirst"