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 krs
 
posted on January 11, 2001 09:46:32 PM new
Clinton was president for 38 years? Hail to the Chief!

 
 ddicffe
 
posted on January 11, 2001 09:46:59 PM new
krs:
Not beyond me, I choose to ignore it. Too many babies, huh. I guess next it will be too many Gypses, too many Canadians, to many Christians, too many Jews. So, if we are "clipped curve", who decides that curve? You? Make me laugh. As for the cells on my head I kill when I wash, they can regenerate, an aborted child cannot.
In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.

Edited to clairify that the cells that leave me when I wash are dead, while the child is alive in the womb. The child in a womb wasn't dead, for by the time a woman realizes they are pregnana, heart beat and brainwave activity can be recorded. My dander has no heartbeat or brainwaves.
[ edited by ddicffe on Jan 11, 2001 09:52 PM ]
 
 ddicffe
 
posted on January 11, 2001 09:49:53 PM new
james:
Yes, he is-it is in the constitution. I'd give you the exact location, but at this moment I do not have a copy in front of me. BTW, if Ashcroft is a bad choice for A.G., then doesn't it stand to reason that Clinton was a bad choice for President?


In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.
 
 krs
 
posted on January 11, 2001 09:50:37 PM new
Sure, by your recent acceptance of the frog you can now say that in fact you aren't even killing your cells with any certainty.

 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on January 11, 2001 09:51:31 PM new
That's spilt milk. He's leaving office in 8 days. However, Clinton may have been a bad choice or not, but he was elected. An Attourney General is selected.
 
 krs
 
posted on January 11, 2001 09:53:30 PM new
It's Article II, section 2, James

 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on January 11, 2001 09:54:26 PM new
Thank you, Ken.
 
 ddicffe
 
posted on January 11, 2001 09:54:53 PM new
james:
You would not select someone who holds your point of view?

krs: Untrue, you gave me a hypothetical situation, I gave a proper response. Truth be known, I prefer my frogs deep fried, but only thier legs.


In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.
 
 ddicffe
 
posted on January 11, 2001 09:58:48 PM new
Well gentlemen (and ladies, if any are here), as it is 0100, I need to be off to bed. However, I shall return soon, to see if krs can prove evolution, and if snowy can disprove God. May His peace be upon you all.






In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.
 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on January 11, 2001 09:59:07 PM new
I would not select someone who would not do their job.

But beyond that, Bush ran on a moderate Republican platform. What's he doing picking this guy for this post? Many people that voted for Bush voted for him based on his "I'm a uniter not a divider" spiel.
 
 krs
 
posted on January 11, 2001 09:59:54 PM new
Their, not thier

ddicffe, what if you were told that ashcroft's ONLY attempt to obtain any benefit for ANY prisoner was in aide of a member of the (neo) Klu Klux Klan?

Would that alter your view of him in any way?

 
 krs
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:02:29 PM new
ddicffe made his last post, by his statement, a few days ago. Goes to show that men of Faith may not be men of their word, which is something revealed each day now in this transmorphistion process in the news.

 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:03:45 PM new
transmorphistion

Uhh, yeah.
 
 ddicffe
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:04:07 PM new
last post:

james: Uniter, not divider: as he is trying to unite the WHOLE country, he must choose from all fields. Even those whom you deem as unfriendly to your own cause, as others have suffered under the Clinton era.


krs:That would depend on Ashcrofts reasons. However, let me ask you this, and think on it: If I tell you that Christ is the risen Lord of all, that He died for yours and all of mankinds sins to bring us eternal life, and I used my websites as you use your liberal ones, would you believe me?


Night



In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.
 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:05:22 PM new
I know it's your last post (and good night to you), but I'm still not sure how a man who will not enforce laws can be picked to enforce them.
 
 ddicffe
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:06:54 PM new
krs:
Sometimes even silence must be broken. But, with the liberalism so rampant in this forum, I guess I shall stay silent no longer, for it would be a greater sin for me to stay silent, then to speak. My sins of arrogance and pride are forgiven me when I but ask, krs. Are yours?
In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.
 
 ddicffe
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:09:31 PM new
Sarcasm from the wonderous jamesoblivion? I must admit, though I have been silent for a long time, I have always enjoyed your witty remarks. (I know, tonight I am like bad luggage, you cannot get rid of me). But, as my wife has just reminded me that 0515 comes pretty quickly for we working joes, it is off to bed.



In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.
 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:10:16 PM new
I am wondering where you saw sarcasm in any of my posts.
 
 krs
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:12:00 PM new
How about some good old time preaching, ddcliffe? You apparently have a need to build up your witnessing credits.

Start a thread, call it a meeting, and tend to the resultant flock.

 
 ddicffe
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:12:54 PM new
absolute last (I hate this immeadate updating)

james, I was accepting with, maybe sarcasm was the wrong word, but I sensed a big grin on you face when you wished me goodnight, like "Geeze, finally he's leaving. He hangs out like the in-laws or something."

I apoloigize if I offended you with that sarcasm remark, I believed I was returning your humor.


In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.
 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:14:27 PM new
Well, I was wishing you good night. I enjoyed this, or I wouldn't have been posting, as I hope you did too.
[ edited by jamesoblivion on Jan 11, 2001 10:15 PM ]
 
 snowyegret
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:15:18 PM new
ddicffe: I am curious as to how you came to have such a poor hebrew education, that you would not comprehend the hebrew to english translation of the first six words of the Torah.

 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:16:57 PM new
Snowy, actually that first verse can be correctly translated more than one way.
 
 krs
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:17:21 PM new
http://www.nyobserver.com/pages/conason.asp

 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:21:00 PM new
I just get a kick out of how he was whupped by poor, late Mel Carnahan in his own Bush-voting state.
 
 snowyegret
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:23:10 PM new
jamesoblivion: I just always got a very different sense from creating (ongoing) as opposed to created (done). Translation is slippery, but tenses...

I also find the live voting for the dead ironic. In Fl, the dead vote for the live.
[ edited by snowyegret on Jan 11, 2001 10:25 PM ]
 
 jamesoblivion
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:28:49 PM new
The verse is B'raishit bara Elohim et ha'Shamayim v'et ha'Aretz". (phonetically)

It can be translated as either "When God began to create the Heavens and the Earth..." in which case, verse two is a continutation of the thought. Or it can be translated as "In the beginning of [something goes in here which the verse doesn't specify] God created the Heavens and the Earth", which is a full thought.

Actually, there is a passage in a Jewish prayer which says "every day, eternally, He renews the act of creation" -- that's an essential piece of Jewish theology, that creation is ongoing.

PS, my point is that the people of Missouri did not vote a straight ticket, they voted for Bush but threw Ashcroft out of the Senate. After serving two terms as governor and one in the Senate, wouldn't ya figure Missouri knows the guy and knows why they had enough of him?
[ edited by jamesoblivion on Jan 11, 2001 10:31 PM ]
 
 reamond
 
posted on January 11, 2001 10:42:55 PM new
The worse part of Ashcroft lies in his unwavering support of the lost cause of the Confederacy. How about that for a "public" servant in the Federal govt. ?? A Timothy McVie in a suit, tie, and cabinet appointment. Ashcroft is a nut case, and proved to be an embarassment as a Senator and was voted out of office for that reason.

Bush is repaying a political debt by appointing Ashcroft, because he sure wasn't appointed for his brilliance or enlightened out look.

 
 chococake
 
posted on January 12, 2001 01:27:22 AM new
I wish Ashcroft would have beat the dead guy, then we wouldn't have had to worry about his nomination.

ddicffe - I know the title of this thread is about pro-choice, but what about the other issues. He is just too extreme in everything.

I was so happy that Barbara Boxer announced her opposition to his nomination. I'm really proud to have voted for her.

 
 reamond
 
posted on January 12, 2001 10:33:44 AM new
Once some of the nutty positions Ashcroft has taken are made more public during confirmation hearings, there will be several Republicans join in Ashcroft's nomination defeat. So far Rep Senators are remaining silent or giving tacit support, but there will be several bombs dropped about this weirdo in the hearings that will cause the Senate to regard him as poison when the public becomes better informed.

 
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