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 Linda_K
 
posted on April 22, 2006 07:53:46 PM
"The Bible was the most quoted source for the Founding Fathers, Bible scholars say."

And that is proven over and over by a website that sends me daily quotes from our founders. Most would be surprised at the number of times they mention God...etc.

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And even old Thomas Jefferson who most liberals CLAIM supported the separation of Church and State took the time to take a Bible and cut parts out...change parts and ended up producing what is referred to as the Jeffersonian Bible.

So while the liberals try and convince others that this Nation wasn't founded on a STRONG belief in God....and twist the meaning of our Constitution when it comes to our Constitutional 'right's', put in our Constitution BY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, to FREELY practice our own religions....they do so in error.


Our founders never intended to separate God from Country....reading their quotes one learns many/most felt the two belonged together.

Not FORCED....but ALLOWED. And not allowing it is what the liberal/progressive/secular/atheists platform continues to work for.
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While the democratic party complains about everything THIS President does to protect our Nation:

What would a Democrat president have done at that point? Apparently, the answer is: Sit back and wait for the next terrorist attack.
Ann Coulter
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 fenix03
 
posted on April 22, 2006 08:25:11 PM
you fenixdickless

Now that we have clearly established you emotional maturity.... Isn't kind of redundant to refer to a female as dickless?

-- you, who has no children, the oh so gay liberalese',

Oh, so now I am gay because I have made the decision not to expose a child to my temper and possibly perpetuate a legacy of abuse? Now who is being judgemental because others choose not to live by their standards.

cannot stand the fact that people have the right to raise their OWN children they way they see fit.

Parents can raise their children in whatever manner they wish. I don't believe I said anything about denying anyone the the right to home school. I just disagree with decision.

I would think that even someone as dense as yourself could understand the difference between disagreeing and disallowing.


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People put their hand on the bible, and swear to uphold the constitution. They do not put their hand on the constitution, and swear to uphold the bible.
 
 fenix03
 
posted on April 22, 2006 08:30:57 PM
::I thank God everyday I am not a creep azz fuxed up abused child like you!::

You know - it takes a special kind of disgusting human being to try to use a history of abuse as a stick to attack someone with. Personally, I'd rather have my history than whatever it was that caused you to be such a bitter and disgusting person that you would sign on to a computer for the sole reason of attempting to attack complete strangers for attention.

You give damaged a whole new meaning. Seek help.





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People put their hand on the bible, and swear to uphold the constitution. They do not put their hand on the constitution, and swear to uphold the bible.
 
 kiara
 
posted on April 22, 2006 09:00:29 PM
I'm always amused by the things that some thank God for daily. I've read quite often on the boards here what others thank him for and pray for....... strange. Actually it puts a whole new light on how they view religion and what is important to them when it comes to prayer.


 
 Libra63
 
posted on April 22, 2006 09:55:57 PM
I imagine that you have that all down in your files Kiara. Each and every tidbit of the posters in here. I bet it is a good read. Do you sit and read it everyday so when someone posts you can jump right in.



http://www.adprima.com/home.htm


Home Schooling Information and Resources
Home schooling as an alternative to public or private school is here to stay. In addition, publicly funded vouchers for education have major implications for home schoolers as well as for traditional forms of education. Ultimately, courts will have to answer the question of whether parents who home school their children are eligible for publicly funded vouchers. I believe the Constitution is on the side of the home schoolers in this matter. The implications of all of this are staggering.
There are many reasons for the shift toward home schooling. It certainly has become an increasingly attractive alternative for many parents who are concerned with traditional education systems. Recent statistics indicate that over two million students in the United States are home schooled. If you are considering home schooling for one or more of your children, make sure you have reliable information upon which to make a decision. There are thousands of sites on the Internet that have information about home schooling, some useful, some not, and some that exist merely to espouse a particular philosophy under the guise of home schooling. There are networks of parents and professionals that can provide you with virtually all the information you need to make this important choice, not just for your children, but for you.


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 kiara
 
posted on April 22, 2006 10:20:17 PM
I imagine that you have that all down in your files Kiara. Each and every tidbit of the posters in here. I bet it is a good read. Do you sit and read it everyday so when someone posts you can jump right in.


No I don't Libra63, I have a memory and when things are recently said here I don't need files like you may imagine or you may keep.

I mentioned it because a couple of people have prayed to God and thanked him for numerous silly happenings on this board or have prayed for bad things to happen to me because of my postings but have also chastised another poster for wanting prayers for her ill family member. It strikes me as a bit strange, that's all.


Why does it bother you that I freely comment on it? You jump into conversations here, why be so condescending to others if they do? Just because you took a holiday it doesn't mean that you suddenly have ownership of the board or something.



 
 profe51
 
posted on April 22, 2006 11:39:46 PM
And even old Thomas Jefferson who most liberals CLAIM supported the separation of Church and State...

I take that to mean you think Jefferson did not support the the separation of church and state. That you think he felt the church and the state should be inseparable. Is that really what you think Linda?

Nobody ever claimed Jefferson, or any other founding father was an atheist. This is an excerpt from a letter written by Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Committe of Connecticut.

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state.

There is no need to bold any of the words of Jefferson. They speak for themselves.
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 Linda_K
 
posted on April 23, 2006 12:09:49 AM
Libra....

I imagine that you have that all down in your files Kiara. Each and every tidbit of the posters in here. I bet it is a good read. Do you sit and read it everyday so when someone posts you can jump right in.

Oh no.....IF you believe kiara she's not sitting here all day and all night waiting to jump in and pick a fight. She only sits down to read this forum when she's taking a break to eat. LOL LOL LOL

<wink, wink, wink>


kiara just continues to want to fight.....fight about everything that is said. Even making up things along the way, like how someone prays for bad things to happen to her. What a crock. But that's kiara for you.

"I mentioned it because a couple of people have prayed to God and thanked him for numerous silly happenings on this board or have prayed for bad things to happen to me because of my postings but have also chastised another poster for wanting prayers for her ill family member."


That's how she seeks her attention here...not by discussing the topics. Nope, fighting is her game. Repeating the same old stuff over and over and over again. Stuff from years ago. She needs a new groove, imo. She's been stuck in this one for way too long.

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LOL profe....I've discussed this subject WAY too many times here....not going to do it again.

I said what I wanted to to point out that Jefferson did believe in God. Did cut and paste a Bible that HE prefered = The Jefferson Bible.


You appear to want to make THAT into more than I said....which will leave you discussing it with yourself.


Our founding fathers didn't agree on a LOT of the issues that they felt like including in our Const.....and that's why this so-called 'separation of church and state' was NEVER included in THEIR/our Constitution...because they couldn't AGREE upon it.

Plus the 'separation' they were all referring to was to separate from the Church of England....not having ONLY ONE religion. Not being forced to practice that same religion. THAT, imo and many Const. scholars is what THEY meant.

Believe what you wish...I don't care.
[ edited by Linda_K on Apr 23, 2006 12:16 AM ]
 
 kiara
 
posted on April 23, 2006 12:33:58 AM
Shove it, lindak. I made a comment and have every right to post here whenever I choose to. Besides, you're a great one to b!tch if I happen to sit down and post a couple of times in a day when you post steady on a couple of boards nonstop almost around the clock.


BTW, how is your leg injury? Perhaps your doctor didn't advise you but do you know that when you get as old as you are, you are more at risk for getting weak bones. Lack of exercise can make it much worse so between laying in bed all day or on your sofa with your Web TV as you reported and scootering around Wally World you may want to take a brisk walk on occasion.

As you found out, all that excess weight on fragile bones can be deadly. Also, if you go outside more often you may gain some appreciation for the environment and have more understanding as to why others who enjoy it are so concerned.





 
 kiara
 
posted on April 23, 2006 12:49:24 AM
kiara just continues to want to fight.....fight about everything that is said. Even making up things along the way, like how someone prays for bad things to happen to her. What a crock. But that's kiara for you.

lindak, while I realize you're blind to your lapdog dblfugger's postings where she doesn't stay on topic such as in this thread may I jerk your memory about the times she's openly said she's prayed for something bad to happen to me like driving into a wall, etc. It got to be a joke because each time she prayed for or wished something bad on me I seemed to have extra good luck.




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 profe51
 
posted on April 23, 2006 04:55:45 AM
You appear to want to make THAT into more than I said..

Not at all. You said that Jefferson's belief in the separation of church and state is a liberal CLAIM. One can only conclude from that statement that you think he didn't really believe in it.
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 Libra63
 
posted on April 23, 2006 06:25:45 AM
Just more insults.....

No Kiara your defination is not enough, but think what you want, post what you want as this is an open disucssion board.. You know, I think I will do the same....


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 Helenjw
 
posted on April 23, 2006 06:56:44 AM

Some people may appear dumb as sh!t but in reality are professional sh!t stirrers ...

So, while linda functions as the turd in the punchbowl at Otwa, we have some entertainment here too.





 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on April 23, 2006 07:30:42 AM
You people carry out your foolishness for years and years and see you Helen, you have no reason to smile ... you are a denial in mass so stick it in your insulin needle four times a day for your bitterness.

 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on April 23, 2006 07:34:36 AM
may I jerk your memory

haha Linda...youve got her down to mother may i now? Good job Linda!!

kiara you are just a little kid with no brains and you need to grow up and stop trying to be friends and family with people who dont want your stupid azz spy world, on the edge of over nothing. You and boyfriend are voids in my book and i have told you plenty of times you got the wrong one with me kid. You think everybody is kissing some azz...look at you -- you little needy needy thing!! You need so badly to think you have something to offer somebody but you dont even know how to. You have such aneed to to show you are tuff and correct and all this bitc*dawg stuff...what an old boring boring story and what a pathetic thing you are.

Stay that way too. Its ugly and it fits you.
But stay out my hair cause you cant come close my burn ok stupid ass dogie lover chippie. The only way you win is to CHEAT because you are that cheap!

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Now enters ka-ka's boyfriend for revenge on my bob. Poor little sponge bobette my picture was right on it. Tsk tsk! what a shame some choose to stick their head in the sand for ever and a day....

~hot cha~ its double down time


[ edited by dblfugger9 on Apr 23, 2006 07:41 AM ]
 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on April 23, 2006 07:42:44 AM
and fenix whines on all day every day

wah wah wah
 
 fenix03
 
posted on April 23, 2006 08:57:34 AM
Dbl - I'm not whining dearest. Like I have said before, I feel pity for you. I pity someone who has nothing better to do with their lives but seek the most negative attention they can possibly get. I pity someone that is actually able to come up with the concept of using abuse or diabetes as weapons for attack.

I know you think you are cute with all of you rabble rousing but the fact that you feel so compelled to do it just shows how sad your life is.

Said it before, somehow I think it'll be said again....

Seek help.




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 Libra63
 
posted on April 23, 2006 09:10:59 AM
To many Physicians on this board. How come you don't say that to the others fenix just DBL. Now don't say she is the only one who posts like that I can name a few others.
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 fenix03
 
posted on April 23, 2006 09:41:42 AM
Libra - I address Dble because she consistantly attacks me.


Maybe you should clean up your own house before you start worrying about others. Why are you holding me to a standard you don't hold yourself to? Why don't you call Dbl on her crap?

In other words, get off the high horse. You look ridiculous.



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 Linda_K
 
posted on April 23, 2006 10:30:41 PM
Well...let's see. kiara goes on another assuming rant....in which we all know she only makes a fool out of herself by pretending to know anything about me.


But hey....that's how she lives...in some made up fantasy world...where she can pretend she knows all....sees all. LOL

And I know we also know she ACCUSED TWO posters....not just dbl.

Guess kiara was just LYING again...or making up more of her little 'fantasys' that makes her little pretend world more 'safe' for her. Those mental case should always feel like they're very safe. Otherwise they can get VERY dangerous.

kiara LIED: "I mentioned it because a couple of people have prayed to God and thanked him for numerous silly happenings on this board or have prayed for bad things to happen to me because of my postings but have also chastised another poster for wanting prayers for her ill family member."

Not unusual for her though.....let her pretend....she needs to .... so much better than expecting her to face reality....that would be too much of a SHOCK ...she might be forever crushed if that were to happen. tsk tsk tsk
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dbl...the thing I like the most that you posted to kiara was "it's ugly and it suits you". I agree...that's just how she comes across to me too. What a miserable person she always is here. yuck.


 
 kiara
 
posted on April 23, 2006 11:46:36 PM
I got a big reaction from you so I guess the truth bites right to the core, doesn't it lindak?

My comment included you because of your very recent God posts including the one of you telling us how you or others were praying and thanking God that I didn't represent Canada ...... when I have made it known from the start that I only speak for myself and not Canada. It's also noted that you conveniently missed the little word "OR" in my statement.



[ edited by kiara on Apr 23, 2006 11:48 PM ]
 
 kiara
 
posted on April 24, 2006 12:12:46 AM
WoW, I just saw that you got your ass kicked good again on the other board tonite, lindak.

I think we "lost" somebody! LOL !!

No wonder you crawled back here and had your final orgasmic vent of anger and wrath against me again, you must have felt totally humiliated at your own stupidity there. Hope it made you feel a bit better to take it out on me and helps you to sleep so after a few zzzzzzs you can power up all bitter and hit the boards again and continue your perpetual rage for another day and night.

That was hilarious reading over there. Those guys are good! G'nite!


 
 classicrock000
 
posted on April 24, 2006 03:22:28 AM
"No wonder you crawled back here and had your final orgasmic vent of anger"



well.....I never had an orgasm while being angry,you must tell "classic" how this is done,as Im always looking for new ways to get it off.




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If you dont want to hear the truth....dont ask the question.
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on April 24, 2006 06:43:01 AM
LOL classic.....

now remember, kiara lives in a FANTASY world...where ALL is possible.

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Funny how kiara views the other discussion board. LOL....but then again...it's kiara drawing the conclusion....and we know how off she is.

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Yes, kiara I was wanting for you to tell others here that you were LYING.....because I have never wished you ill and especially not by praying or asking my God to strike you with any harm. I figure he'll take care of you on judgement day...and I leave that decision to him.

But as usual...since you worded your post in just a certain way....I wanted to be sure others new you were only 'making something else up'...not that I had/have EVER "prayed for bad things to happen to you" as you just lied about in this thread.


Now...you all have a GREAT week...I'm off for a short trip again....and will attempt not to break any more bones while I'm gone.


keep kiara honest....or at least attempt to.


 
 kiara
 
posted on April 24, 2006 07:30:09 AM
Orgasmic is also a pinnacle of emotional excitement as was lindak's rant, taking it out on me right after being made to feel like an ignoramus last evening and too scared to show her face there again but still feeling the urge to keep going.

Yes, kiara I was wanting for you to tell others here that you were LYING

But as usual...since you worded your post in just a certain way..

lindak, I worded the post exactly as I meant it. You are the one that has earned the reputation of being a liar on several boards, not me.

Enjoy your 'short trip'........ amazing that they usually coincide with getting your ass whipped into humiliation, eh?


 
 Libra63
 
posted on April 24, 2006 07:41:14 AM
Remember OTWA is private and I am sure the reason it is is so that people can't come back here and report. How silly of you Kiara and I think it was Helen? to bring the OTWA board here again. I would also think the owner of that discussion board made it private to stop this sort of thing and may be he will start taking more drastic measures and ban the posters that bring information here from there. That is just petty stuff. Child like. I don't understand what your need is to come here and post things from there.
That board has nothing but liberal posters and they don't like intrusion but since they don't restrict members by their political affiliation what goes on there should stay there.
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 kiara
 
posted on April 24, 2006 08:18:16 AM
Remember OTWA is private and I am sure the reason it is is so that people can't come back here and report.

You are wrong, Libra63. The owner of the board has stated his reasons for making it private and it has nothing to do with people reporting on it here. His reasons can be publicly viewed and no log-in is required so I suggest you go over there and read why.

Your blanket statement that all the posters are 'liberal' is also wrong.

I made a point that whenever lindak feels the heat over there she comes back here and vents on one of us as she did again last night. She has also brought some of this board over there, even commenting on me though I am not posting there. If you don't like my observations or agree with what I choose to post, too bad.



 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 24, 2006 09:26:03 AM

Poor linda...

After your frequent bouts with total humiliation comes a "short trip" or a "broken leg"...what's the next cover story?





 
 Libra63
 
posted on April 24, 2006 10:57:41 AM
How pathetic you are Helen
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 Helenjw
 
posted on April 24, 2006 11:31:29 AM


Why, Libra....looks like my description of your function here got your attention. Carry on, and don't forget to suck up to the poor crippled clown.



 
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